| Captain Gideon | 13 May 2009 7:30 a.m. PST |
With the anniversery of Tsushima coming at the end of the month i thought i'd ask this question regarding this famous Naval Battle and wondered if anyone has gamed this Battle. For me i did run a Tsushima game some years ago at a local convention,and my memory fails me with regards as to who won. So has anyone else fought this battle and if so how did it go? Captain Gideon |
| Scale Creep Miniatures | 13 May 2009 7:43 a.m. PST |
Not yet, but I have the ship models for it
some day
.sigh |
| The Monstrous Jake | 13 May 2009 8:13 a.m. PST |
Many times. Every time I can recall, the Japanese won, although when we used a point system to try to balance it out the Russians almost came close a couple of times to getting at least a draw. I've always gamed the 56-ship version. I haven't done it yet with all 106 ships involved, although I now have all of 106 ships in 1:6000 in case I ever get around to trying it. |
| Martin Rapier | 13 May 2009 8:38 a.m. PST |
Yes, I've done it a few times. Generally the Japanese win, but I have seen one glorious Russian victory where they managed to defeat the Japanese piecemeal. |
Shagnasty  | 13 May 2009 9:23 a.m. PST |
Played it once in phases, Ist day, night, 2nd day. The Russian 2nd squadron did a lot better than expected. I don't think we down-rated their guns enough. Night was all Japanese as was the second day. Japanese still won but lost some ships. Our Togo wasn't as good or as lucky as the historical one. It's a tough scenario for the Russians to do well on if you set it up accurately. Definitely worth a try. |
| Klebert L Hall | 14 May 2009 5:09 a.m. PST |
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| Captain Gideon | 14 May 2009 11:47 a.m. PST |
One problem i have is the Russian Auxiliary vessels that was at Tsushima. There were 9 Aux vessels at Tsushims now between Navwar and WTJ i have 5 of the 9 ships that have been made as mini's. So that means that i'm still needing 4 Russian Aux ships which i've been told that some if not all in the works by WTJ. For my miniatures i have 1/3000th scale mini's and i'm in the process of painting up the WTJ Russian Pacific Squadron and the Japanese Fleet. One other Naval Battle that took place during the war was the Battle of the Yellow Sea,now my friends and myself played this Battle out several years ago. The rules we used was Fire When Ready by David Manly. Well what we did was used the main forces for both sides leaving the light forces out of it,and the Russian rolled over the Japanese. To give a few examples the Mikasa was a burned out wreak and the Russian Battleship Tsesarevitch rammed and cut the Japanese Battleship Fuji in two. The Russians did'nt lose anything. For myself this war is an interesting war since i like both sides,and i can play on either side. A friend of mine did a small booklet about the alternative Russo Japanese War(mostly from the Naval point of view) several years ago. If possible could some of you post some pictures of your Russian and Japanese minis? Thanks Captain Gideon |
| The Monstrous Jake | 15 May 2009 2:34 a.m. PST |
If possible could some of you post some pictures of your Russian and Japanese minis? link Since these photos were taken, I've replaced all my 1:3000 scale ships with 1:6000 scale, but I don't have any photos of the new ones yet. |
| Captain Gideon | 15 May 2009 7:40 a.m. PST |
The pictures look nice and i remember Shipbase III my group used to use it back in the 80's i believe. It was a decent rules set as far as i remember and it was my first contact with a computer. One question on the 1/6000th scale minis do they have the Russian Auxiliary ships for Tsushima? Thanks Captain Gideon |
| TheDreadnought | 15 May 2009 8:03 a.m. PST |
Doing the playtesting for Naval Thunder: Rise of the Battleship, the Russians got crushed – although came close a couple times. We were using the scenario rules though that take into account the poor state of the Russian crews, morale, and ships. If you were to run it as a straight up fight I wonder if the Russians wouldn't win it pretty handily. |
| The Monstrous Jake | 15 May 2009 5:48 p.m. PST |
The pictures look nice and i remember Shipbase III my group used to use it back in the 80's i believe. We published it in the summer of 1993 I think. It was a decent rules set as far as i remember and it was my first contact with a computer. I still use it for all my naval games, but I use newer variants. One question on the 1/6000th scale minis do they have the Russian Auxiliary ships for Tsushima? They have some of them available, but for most of them I think I had to use generic pre-Dread period transports, and some I modified from other ship types. |
| Captain Gideon | 15 May 2009 8:24 p.m. PST |
I just checked and you're right 1993 was indeed the year Shipbase III came out. As for the Russian Aux's in 1/3000th scale they make 5 of the 9,2 were made by WTJ and the rest by Navwar. As for 1/6000th scale i have the Japanese,German and Italian Fleets for WWII,but for me i think 1/3000th is the scale for me when it comes to the Pre-Dreadnought era. For me the Russo Japanese is a favorite period i'm into since i've been interested in the Russo Japanese War for many years. Just curious might you have any resource books on the Russo Japanese War? Thanks Captain Gideon |
| Bill M | 19 May 2009 8:40 a.m. PST |
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| Captain Gideon | 19 May 2009 12:50 p.m. PST |
Thanks Bill for the links i have a very small amount of books that deal with the Russo-Japanese War,but i'm happy with what i got. One other question Bill on the RussoJapanesewar site i was looking for a picture gallery,can you tell me if it has one? Thanks Captain Gideon |
| 138SquadronRAF | 19 May 2009 9:54 p.m. PST |
Yes, but I think the Battle of the Yellow Sea is a more balanced scenario. Tuned out historically each time I've done it. |
| Bill M | 20 May 2009 5:35 a.m. PST |
Captain, Here is a link to the general gallery: link Here is the link to the Mikasa gallery: link Glad you like the site, it has been a labour of love for years now. Cheers Bill |
| TheDreadnought | 20 May 2009 11:46 a.m. PST |
138SquadronRAF - I agree. In fact the last playest we did for Naval Thunder of The Battle of the Yellow Sea even came out with the historical result – even to the point of a bridge hit on the Tsesarevitch causing the Russian line to fall into disarray. Good times! :) |
| sergeis | 25 May 2009 2:05 p.m. PST |
Never did Tsushima, but was a witness of a great Yellow sea battle at last Cold Wars- run by Jim Kasper. Russians won handily, but with some losses. I believe he did entire squadrons, including lights. I have Russians painted in 2400 scale- but not Tsushima, rather Russian Far East fleet, including Vladivostok squadron. I also painted entire Japanese fleet for a friend. We do Perfidious Albion quite often
There is decent US Russo-Japanese war site ( I believe link above), but it really pales before some Russian sites- unfortunately those are in Russian only
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| Captain Gideon | 25 May 2009 8:38 p.m. PST |
Do you have any of the Russian links? Captain Gideon |
| sergeis | 27 May 2009 6:32 p.m. PST |
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| Field Marshal | 30 May 2009 2:08 a.m. PST |
Anyone have any piccies of the fleets for Tsushima in 1:6000? Would love to see them! |