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General Lee04 May 2009 8:08 a.m. PST

Hi there!

Just hought I'd share some of my pictures of my growing Confederate army

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cheers!

de Ligne04 May 2009 8:23 a.m. PST

Nice work. I too am painting Rebels at the moment.

nycjadie04 May 2009 8:24 a.m. PST

Very nice! The paint jobs are so nice, you might consider getting some flags that do them justice.

sma194104 May 2009 8:43 a.m. PST

Very well done.

General Lee04 May 2009 8:56 a.m. PST

thanks all

@nycjadie. What flags are you thinking of?

avidgamer04 May 2009 10:23 a.m. PST

Get the GMB flags. Very nice looking.

jawjatek04 May 2009 10:49 a.m. PST

Isn't that what he's using?

WarWizard04 May 2009 11:23 a.m. PST

Those look great, very well done!

General Lee04 May 2009 11:28 a.m. PST

3 are those that were included in the box, one is from redoubt enterprises. Yeah GMB's are nice looking flags

nycjadie04 May 2009 12:43 p.m. PST

Try GMB or the Flag Dude. They look great.

Ceterman04 May 2009 1:13 p.m. PST

Go with The Flag Dude, best flags I've seen out there, & will look great with your guys. Excellent work!

26th North Carolina04 May 2009 4:48 p.m. PST

They look really nice! However, your artillerymen appear to be re-enactors from the early nineties with those ridiculous red kepis.

General Lee04 May 2009 5:53 p.m. PST

why is that?

TKindred05 May 2009 10:49 a.m. PST

General Lee,

By early 1863, in the east, the Richmond Depot ceased production of branch-specific uniforms as a means of economy. Plain grey caps, and untrimmed jackets, could be issued army-wide, without regard to branch of service.

Having said that, Richmond Depot still would produce specific styles of clothing upon request, as a private contract, to be paid for by the ordering party. Thus, in 1864, the battery of the Washington Artillery serving in the AOP, could order a complete issue of matching clothing for it's members, comprising of a jacket of English broadcloth, piped red, and a trimmed red cap. These were paid for through a collection from the battery members, and forwarded to Richmond, where they were produced and sent to the unit. A surviving example may be seen at the Mannassas visitor's center. Although initially exhibeted as an early-war jacket, it is documented to be a part of their 1864 commercial order.

By Gettysburg, men in the ranks of CS batteries, with few exceptions, would have appeared in plain clothing, the same as infantry and cavalry units.

Respects,

General Lee05 May 2009 1:55 p.m. PST

Hi Tkindred,

Thanks for you insights.

However, I must say that I don't think that I have painted my artillery crew incorrectly. I researched the subject before hand an my sources tell me that, especially in the early years of the war, artillery crew were issued various uniforms with red facings and stripes and also red kepi's. Among some of my sources are Don Troiani and Philip Haythornwaite. I'll quote a passage from the latter:

"Confederate Artillery uniforms supposedly conformed to the regulation style worn by other branches of the army, with the red distinguishing colour worn on the kepi, facings and trimming"

"the gunner is shown in red-piped shell-jacket, which uniform (taken from contemporary information) was just one of a myriad of styles used even within the same company."

Source: Uniforms of the Civil War (New York: Sterling Publishing Co, 1990), p. 60.

I'm well aware of the fact that as the war progressed, the Confederacy had great difficulties supplying its soldiers and that they eventually only suplied simpler looking uniforms. However, as I've said, early in the war, Artillery units did wear the issued uniforms with red. And my army represents the ANV of 1862 – early 1863

I'm sure you're right though on the latter part of the war. As a scholar, I'm very interested in what source you got your information from, so if you can tell me that, I'd be very grateful

doc mcb06 May 2009 8:13 p.m. PST

1) Excellent paint jobs.
2) get the Flag Dude's flags.
3) love the little chicks!

Lord Ashram07 May 2009 11:07 a.m. PST

+1 on Flag Dude; I love his flags… they have such motion! The colors might not quite be as rich as the GMB flags, but the look is fantastic:) Check out his website for some samples…


flagdude.com

Beautiful figures, btw! Very simple and pretty!

nbforrest08 May 2009 11:37 a.m. PST

truly excellent work,a great looking reb army,keep up the good work and we can get those yankee's on the run

SeattleGamer Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2009 5:49 p.m. PST

Great figs General. Thanks for sharing.

What size bases are those?

I have made the plunge and my first batch of 28mm Perry Plastics will be arriving soon. I was thinking of mounting my individually on 20mm (magnetic) bases, and then can use them for skirmish gaming, of mounting four to a 40mm square metal base for larger gaming.

Your bases are either 20mm or 25mm, and I'm wondering which. Thanks.

Oh … what size artillery base is that. 50mm square?

Steve

Arkoudaki17 Aug 2009 9:10 a.m. PST

Very nice indeed. Do keep up the good work…and don't forget the cavalry! If only the Twins would design some more useful bits for the Confederate cav…shotguns, spencer rifles, musketoons, etc! We need an extra arms set in metal…hint, hint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

firstvarty197917 Aug 2009 10:44 p.m. PST

Nicely done on the figures, but I'm going to say again what I've said many times before. The Confederate Army issued uniforms, that means that they should be the same or at least similar in style and color. The only way you would have seen that many different uniform colors in one body of troops is if they were prisoners from many different units being marched away together.

If you want to make them differentiated representing wear and tear on their uniforms, then give them different hats. Kepis should all be the same color, as these would have been issued. Slouch hats would be most likely a shade of black, gray, or brown, and in a variety of styles.

Pants will wear out first and should be the uniform item most likely to be replaced. Hats get lost easily, and soldiers will often find a more practical one when available. Jackets tend to last a while, and should be the most uniform item.

Some variation in color is fine, but you wouldn't have complete sets of issued uniforms in completely different colors and styles within the same company.

Sorry to be negative, but this is a "battle" that's been going on in the reenacting world for many years, and the more authentic, more uniform look is finally starting to make some progress. I hope it can do so in the wargaming world as well.

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