| Vilmonn | 23 Apr 2009 3:11 p.m. PST |
Hi, So, werewolves are an option for War of the Ring Angmar armies, but GW does not produce any werewolf figures. Has anyone thought about what figures they might use for companies of Middle-earth werewolves? I'd be looking for 8 to 16 models for a viable formation. What are some good options from other manufacturers? Thanks, Kevin in Edmonton. |
| doc mcb | 23 Apr 2009 3:14 p.m. PST |
The Heroscape blister that has 4 Minutemen also has 3 werewolves. |
| Farstar | 23 Apr 2009 3:53 p.m. PST |
"GW does not produce any werewolf figures." Yet. |
| Cyrus the Great | 23 Apr 2009 4:43 p.m. PST |
Awwooo! Werewolves of Angmar. Awwooo! |
John the OFM  | 23 Apr 2009 5:03 p.m. PST |
Dum dum, dum dum Dum dum dum dum. |
| Cyrus the Great | 23 Apr 2009 5:57 p.m. PST |
I heard a little hobbit got mutilated late last night. Werewolves of Angmar again. |
| Alxbates | 23 Apr 2009 6:13 p.m. PST |
I'm thinking
Wargs with a few slightly humanoid features, a scootch bigger than normal wargs. Looking forward to seeing the miniatures, although GW's designs based on the movies have been hit or miss in my opinion. |
| Cyrus the Great | 23 Apr 2009 6:43 p.m. PST |
Parts of their site are under construction so a search didn't turn them up, but Alternative Armies, at one time, made some really great werewolves! |
| Syrinx0 | 23 Apr 2009 6:47 p.m. PST |
Too funny. Now I won't be able to get that song out of my head.
and his hair was perfect
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| Cincinnatus | 23 Apr 2009 7:04 p.m. PST |
I found out yesterday those songs/jingles you can't get out of your head are called "Ear Worms". A University of Cincinnati professor compiled a top 10 list of them. I'd take a look at the list but I'm afraid of what I'll be thinking about after reading it. |
| thosmoss | 23 Apr 2009 7:31 p.m. PST |
Werewolves are such a "in the mind's eye" sort of thing. I imagine Lon Chaney Jr. with shredded clothes and a faceful of fur and an attitude that lets him jump on the couch
it just ain't Middle Earth. For me. Last time I bought werewolves, I was quite taken with the old Ral Partha ones for that RPG that spun off the Vampire game. I didn't use them for roleplay, but for Great Rail Wars. My "Complete Guide" describes them as "dreadful spirits imprisoned in large wolf-bodies". Given this arm-waving description, I'd be tempted to scale back and think of things that would fit into LotR, or at least PJ's LotR. A really big wolf might fit the bill, here, preferably one big enough to make a GW Warg wimper and slink away. Reaper just released some Dire Wolves in one of their new white-backing miniatures lines, and I liked them a lot. But I like wolf miniatures a lot. I've got a basement seemingly full already, and if I started calling them "were" they might find themselves painted. |
| Sloppypainter | 23 Apr 2009 8:47 p.m. PST |
Werewolves in Middle Earth? Really? Musta missed that. |
| Sane Max | 24 Apr 2009 1:08 a.m. PST |
Several places in the Silmarillion. It's easily missed, But IIRC Finrod Felagund (my fave Tolkien Name) was done to death by them. Pat |
| streetline | 24 Apr 2009 1:25 a.m. PST |
Blue Moon make some nice traditional werewolves. |
| MiniatureWargaming dot com | 24 Apr 2009 2:39 a.m. PST |
Well, Beorn was a werebear, so why not werewolves |
| Brandlin | 24 Apr 2009 3:04 a.m. PST |
If i remember rightly tolkein never uses the term were-creaure (wolf bear etc). He hints at the fact that these are shape changing creatures able to take the form of both men and wolves. I think modern day usage of the term werewolf (or werebear) has imbued the tolkeins concept with a jackson thriller, american werewolf in london, dog soldiers, style imagery which doesn't sit well for me in Middle earth. I'd simply buy a unit of wolves that look different to any wargs you have and call them werewolves. I would certainly avoid anything that is an upright man shaped wolf with shredded trousers on
not all in keeping in my mind
Brandlin |
| Brandlin | 24 Apr 2009 3:05 a.m. PST |
Blue Moon make some nice traditional werewolves.
I'm not sure i understand that comment. What do you mean by 'Traditional' there are so many interpretations. However i like your recommendation. To emphasise my post above i think i might create a unit of wolves by mixing the wolf creatures from link with a pack of these link That would give a fully wolf based unit with a few eye catching upright ones
giving the impression of something other than a wolf pack
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| streetline | 24 Apr 2009 3:17 a.m. PST |
What do you mean by 'Traditional' there are so many interpretations In this instance I meant werewolves that have the classic half man half wolf ripped clothing look. Not werewolves that only play Nappies or ACW using figures older than I am and now obscure rulesets from Featherstone et al. ;-) |
John the OFM  | 24 Apr 2009 4:43 a.m. PST |
No, Tolkien uses the actual word "Werewolf", several times. |
| Sane Max | 24 Apr 2009 5:00 a.m. PST |
and Vampire as well. Don't Beren and Luthien Disguise themselves as one of each to sneak into Morgoth's Lair? Gaurhoth is the elven word, my mind tells me – and If I am right that makes me sad, as I last read the Sellamillion in 1985 Pat |
| Ulfr Ericsson | 24 Apr 2009 6:46 a.m. PST |
We have some Werewolves link |
| Vilmonn | 24 Apr 2009 7:25 a.m. PST |
Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I might go with the Blue Moon solution. Kevin in Edmonton. |
Parzival  | 24 Apr 2009 7:29 a.m. PST |
I saw Carcharoth walking with the Witch King— werewolves in Angmar again. |
| streetline | 24 Apr 2009 7:34 a.m. PST |
Wow. I'd not seen the Bronze Age weres before – they're really nice. |
| Thomas Nissvik | 24 Apr 2009 10:43 a.m. PST |
He's the hairy-handed gent who ran amok in Gundabad and lately he's been overheard in Carn Dûm. And for those of you who don't get the running joke here: YouTube link A unit made up of some Blue Moon and some Bronze Age correctly mixed should look really nice on the board. |
| jeffrsonk | 24 Apr 2009 11:10 a.m. PST |
Ack! Send wizards, elves, and money! |
| cooey2ph | 24 Apr 2009 12:03 p.m. PST |
Tolkien's werewolves were monstrous beasts bred from wolves -- most probably making them quadrupeds -- and inhabited by "dreadful" spirits -- which kinda sounds like fallen Maiar to me. IMHO, this could fit the bill link |
| cooey2ph | 24 Apr 2009 12:09 p.m. PST |
Oh, and the Heroscape Wolves look nice too. link And the GW multipart Dire Wolves or fleshhounds could work for more demonic werewolves. |
| Dunadan | 24 Apr 2009 12:34 p.m. PST |
Tolkien's werewolves were basically fallen maiar and orc souls incarnated as monstrous wolves. The only "shapeshifters" in the books are Beorn(called a "skin-changer") and Sauron(turns into a giant wolf in the Silmarillion). GWs Wargs should work fine, though you could also use their Vampire Counts Dire Wolves if you want a different look. |
John the OFM  | 24 Apr 2009 3:29 p.m. PST |
From the authoritative Encyclopedia of Arda: link Then, follow the link for wereworms
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| religon | 25 Apr 2009 4:43 a.m. PST |
If you like traditional looking werewolves, D&D plastic miniatures do at least one. They also fit nicely in the new War of the Ring Infantry trays
so perhaps find 8 that do not need painting? |
| Robert V | 25 Apr 2009 10:02 a.m. PST |
Older GW dire wolves or even the now chaos hounds would work well.The new dire wolves are a bit to rotted to pass as anything but undead. |
| Old Dwarf | 25 Apr 2009 10:50 a.m. PST |
I put together a lot of Units for LoTR based on the fluff in the old MERP Game by Iron Crown. They had a special breed of werewolf orc tribe the Scara Hai Orcs.I painted up some GW LoTR plastic orcs with a grey skin paint job & then when they shifted used GW WH plastic wolves with the leader figs being old Battle Master Wolves. |
| Ogryn1 | 10 Nov 2009 8:48 a.m. PST |
D&D Minis makes two werewolves in their line (older) They also make a Gnoll Claw fiend/thing which works the best!! The werewolves also need to be on 25mm sized bases so they fit eight to a try. This rules out most manufacturers wolves and the big were wolves. |
| M C MonkeyDew | 10 Nov 2009 8:52 a.m. PST |
You could use a unit of men of your choice led by a dismounted warg. As Tolkien shape changers can appear as men or beasts just say the rest haven't turned yet. |
| FatherOfAllLogic | 14 Nov 2009 1:58 p.m. PST |
At some point in the Silmarillion doesn't Sauron live in a tower on an island in a river and is called the or a lord of werewolves. Round about the time of Beren perhaps? |
| Cacique Caribe | 14 Nov 2009 5:42 p.m. PST |
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