Uesugi Kenshin  | 22 Apr 2009 3:58 p.m. PST |
Not sure what they look like yet, but boy is the price right! link link |
| setsuko | 22 Apr 2009 4:08 p.m. PST |
I still would not order a model without seeing a picture of them. How difficult can it be to take a bunch of pics with a digital camera and upload them? That's like 30 minutes work. Hopefully there'll be pics up soon though, and I agree that the price is very nice if the sculpts are good. |
aecurtis  | 22 Apr 2009 4:42 p.m. PST |
"Not sure what they look like yet…" Because they're… so far away? Jay announced their release last week. Would have thought he'd show them to you. |
| Uesugi Kenshin | 22 Apr 2009 5:49 p.m. PST |
The Koreans are very good. I have all the packs except the cavalry so far. |
| jsmcc91 | 22 Apr 2009 6:42 p.m. PST |
I am juggling many things and time is an issue. I am working on getting the Ming and Koreans up this week as well as prepping more ancient and medieval picks. Jay
BH/OG 15s |
| Dr Mathias | 22 Apr 2009 6:46 p.m. PST |
Sad, saw this and was hoping for 28mm. I'm just about finished with '1421 – The Year the Chinese discovered America'. I can wait :) |
| McWong73 | 22 Apr 2009 8:12 p.m. PST |
You know the book '1421 – The Year the Chinese discovered America' is a fake? Theres been several investigative stories on him by various media over the years. Believe me, I'd love for the Chinese to have done all he claims in that book, but it's a complete fake and is not of any academic value what so ever. |
| Uesugi Kenshin | 22 Apr 2009 8:12 p.m. PST |
Mathias, Ming 28mm minis are on the WF pre-order list: link |
| Redleg72 | 23 Apr 2009 12:05 a.m. PST |
After having read the book, I've seen as many of those media stories as I could and I have to say, the author's argument for the existance of these travels is still much stronger than any of the evidence presented on these programs. In general they follow the same basic pattern, choosing a few pieces of his argument to pick at and try to eat away at the credibility of his conclusions. At best they offer alternative pottential explanations to the ones the author has provided, but they never truly disprove anything. Meanwhile, these programs ignore the vast majority of the book and the evidence cited therein, picking and choosing the parts to find fault with that "obviously" indicate the entire concept is a farce. That's not scholarship either, and these guys are supposed to be professional scholars while the author is not. In the end, he makes a much better, much more scholarly argument for than any I've seen made against the idea that the Ming wandered a bit further than previously thought or that history has thus far given them credit for. Still, all that said, I too am anxiously waiting for a decent 28mm Ming Army to field with my growing Perry Koreans and Samurai. |
| mad monkey 1 | 23 Apr 2009 7:43 a.m. PST |
How does the OG compare with the Two Dragon figures? Got lots of sammies from TD, would like to get some Koreans to scrap with them. |
| Wargamer43210 | 23 Apr 2009 10:27 a.m. PST |
How does the OG compare with the Two Dragon figures? The Two Dragon figs tend to be more squat & thickset. The OG are a little taller. Still I'm happy mixing them together. Jeremy |
| Uesugi Kenshin | 23 Apr 2009 2:19 p.m. PST |
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| jsmcc91 | 23 Apr 2009 2:34 p.m. PST |
I primed the Koreans and Ming before I left the shop. They will be ready to go tomorrow. Jay |
| crhkrebs | 23 Apr 2009 3:42 p.m. PST |
Redleg, After having read the book, I've seen as many of those media stories as I could and I have to say, the author's argument for the existance of these travels is still much stronger than any of the evidence presented on these programs. It is not the TV programs that did Menzies in, it is Western and Chinese scholars that contend that his claims have no merit. Menzies has absolutely zero evidence to back up his claims, his book is a mass of conjecture and supposition, nothing more. He cannot even read the ancient maps correctly. He has no legitimacy in the academic community and is looked upon as the new Von Daniken. Historian Robert Finlay says it most succinctly, "Examination of the book's central claims reveals they are uniformly without substance." (From: How (not) to rewrite World History. Gavin Menzies and the Chinese Discovery of America Journal of World History, Vol. 15, No. 2 (2004), S.229–242) The Chinese did have great legitimate accomplishments that they are truly proud of, despite the fact they never got to North America. Ralph |
| McWong73 | 23 Apr 2009 3:45 p.m. PST |
Redleeg, I would love for Menzies stories to be true, but not even Chinese academics give him any credibility and if I'm not mistaken the publisher in Australia won't even try to support any of his claims. Still, it's relatively well written and there is a small amount of baby you don't want to throw out with the bathwater. |
| Uesugi Kenshin | 24 Apr 2009 6:51 p.m. PST |
Pictures of Koreans and Ming now posted:
link link |
| McWong73 | 28 Apr 2009 4:31 p.m. PST |
Not bad, quite nice. Do these qualify for the sale they've got on at the moment? |
| Uesugi Kenshin | 28 Apr 2009 6:06 p.m. PST |
Actually, they are on sale here for $9 USD a pack I believe. The Koreans are currently on sale for $7! warweb.com |
| jsmcc91 | 29 Apr 2009 5:21 a.m. PST |
Everything we manufacture on our website qualifies for the discount. Jay |
