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Lluis Vilalta16 Apr 2009 1:35 p.m. PST

Has anyone else -besides of me- got a taste on the newly released FOW Firestorm campaign system (Operation Bagration) and started thinking about transporting it to other campaigns or war periods?

Otherwise, has anyone run a 'race for Stalingrad' campaign recently? …Under which set of campaign rules?

As you can easily imagine, I'd love to run such an Eastern Front campaign either with the FOW Firestorm rules set or something similar, under premises such as a limited number of turns, mutual influence between map-strategy and tabletop-tactics, and a high campaign managing fluidity.

(Sure, I'm asking for too much)

Personal logo aegiscg47 Supporting Member of TMP16 Apr 2009 1:45 p.m. PST

Storm over Stalingrad, a board game from MMP might be ideal for a campaign. There's a beautiful map of the city and it's broken up into areas for movement. Just use platoons for the company/battalion counters and you could pull it off pretty easily.

royaleddy16 Apr 2009 1:46 p.m. PST

On the FoW forum there is some work on a Normandy version.
the next offical campaign is Market-Garden.
i have some vague ideas about Moscow 1941 or Sevastopol 1942 (so i can use my Romaninans).

Lluis Vilalta17 Apr 2009 9:10 a.m. PST

Storm over Stalingrad, a board game from MMP might be ideal for a campaign

A friend of mine has already let me Avalon Hill's "Turning point: Stalingrad", and a second one has printed for me a copy of MMP's "Storm over Stalingrad" main board, so that I can compare both maps.

My idea would be combining both (the larger area one with the lesser areas other) to obtain the campaign final map. The campaign itself should run with the same basic "Firestorm" rules than "Operation Bagration", with a few exceptions, such as those related to supply lines thru railways, that wouldn't apply (maybe roads instead for the German player, and ??? for the Soviet).

As for the initial OOB and counters (the so-called 'Firestorm troops'), I've understood that I should first obtain the list of units involved for both sides -at an average Division level; I guess that this work could be done by analyzing the boardgame counters (those of "Turning point: Stalingrad" are ranging from company to regiment level). One known the approximative initial OOB, I figure that you should be able to personalize each Division in a single 'Firestorm troop' counter. The goal would be to obtain a balanced selection of counters.

As for Victory Points (initial setup, distribution and total number), I'm quite uncertain by now.

Volga river should play an important role in the campaign, it shouldn't be forgotten.

Following the "Firestorm" campaign system philosophy, there should be a limited number of turns. As a starting hypothesis, we could think of 4-6 turns too.

However, in my oppinion the number of battles per turn should be limited, unlike "Operation Bagration" does, depending of the expected number of players. I believe that the way to achieve this is to make the dice roll range depending on that cypher of players. In a small sized club as mine, it should be far better a 1 or 2 D3 dice roll than the frightening 2D6 used by "Operation Bagration"!

Finally, it seems to be no room for any Partisan Phase in a campaign with such a limited area campaign -although I could be wrong.

What do you believe?

Lluis Vilalta17 Apr 2009 10:55 a.m. PST

Opssss… "One known the approximative initial OOB" should be read "ONCE known the approximative initial OOB".

Apologies, ehem.

donlowry17 Apr 2009 1:09 p.m. PST

A Victory Lost (don't know the publisher) is a good board game about the Soviet counterattack during the Stalingrad siege and Manstein's reaction to it.

normsmith18 May 2009 12:11 p.m. PST

Publisher is MMP (Multi Man Publishing)

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