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Black Autumn Productions Inactive Member02 Apr 2009 3:38 p.m. PST

Had any of you seen this yet?

I just found it today. It looks like a good production from what I can tell.


Personal logo Patrick R Supporting Member of TMP02 Apr 2009 3:54 p.m. PST

I'm going to faint now, please don't let me swallow my tongue.

Black Autumn Productions Inactive Member02 Apr 2009 3:58 p.m. PST

I know…and all of this past week I have just been listening to the ERB JCOM stories while I sculpt my WSW Aliens.

I think that this is great news!

Black Autumn Productions Inactive Member02 Apr 2009 4:08 p.m. PST

Hey Hardboiled PULP Gamers, they even have Not-Green Hornet T-Shirts!

…or was there also a Falcon?
I only really ever kept up with Dick Tracey myself, and The Shadow, of course.

This is just to much like fun!

Now I have to have a little look at the entire site…

Personal logo Patrick R Supporting Member of TMP02 Apr 2009 4:12 p.m. PST

There is still hope for a Flash Gordon RPG …

Black Autumn Productions Inactive Member02 Apr 2009 4:18 p.m. PST

Hi Pat
Had you seen this?
YouTube link

It looks like it would work fine for a Flash Gordon Setting.

Mutant Q02 Apr 2009 4:44 p.m. PST

I pre-ordered this last month and I got a hold of it this week. Outside of a couple layout issues and copy editing errors it's fantastic!

However, a word of caution: Adamant wanted to do an true-blue rendition of Barsoom when they published their d20 version of Mars, but ERB Incorporated's lawyers put the kibosh on that plan. So they had to strip the setting down a little bit to make the setting more "generic." That said, all it would take are a few minor tweaks (there are race creation rules in the book as well) to emulate John Carter's Mars.

I've genned up some characters that I'll put on my Savage Worlds blog later tonight. Now to peruse the Bronze Age and Paroom Station catalogs for suitable miniatures!

Black Cavalier02 Apr 2009 4:59 p.m. PST
Ditto Tango 2 1 Inactive Member03 Apr 2009 11:10 a.m. PST

I say, Black autumn, the link you gave doesn't seem to say anything about John Carpenter, nor does the art look anything like Carpenter's execrable movie, ghosts of mars. That movie was one of the biggest wastes of times I've ever experienced (saw it on TV), and made me realize I should never ever again bother with any movie that has:

<insert some supposedly gifted but really too full of himself director's name>'s Dramatic Movie Title.


Seriously, man, you'll turn people off the game and I bet some who might have looked at it and considered the link, didn't even bother.

Lerchey Inactive Member03 Apr 2009 12:17 p.m. PST


Ok, I'm kind of a purist when it comes to Barsoom. They didn't wear freakin' hats. *sigh*

But it's still way cool. :D

Black Autumn Productions Inactive Member03 Apr 2009 2:02 p.m. PST

Hi Ditto Bird.
I can not be held responsible for that film…lol.
He did give us The Thing, and a few others, that are IMO more worth my time, over dinner.


People on Mars also go about nude…
I want to see a sculptor do that justice.


Eli Arndt Inactive Member03 Apr 2009 2:14 p.m. PST


In this case it might have to do with the fact that it's a Not-Barsoom setting. The MARS game is not new, just new in the Savage Worlds format.

Looking throug hthe original D20 version, this is a close approximation to Barsoom. For example, the Green Martians only have two arms, the White Apes wear armor and are more intelligent. Also, there are intelligent cephalopod aliens on this Mars too.


Personal logo Dances With Words Supporting Member of TMP Fezian Inactive Member03 Apr 2009 3:20 p.m. PST

so Black Autumn Productions….are you going to be releasing some new TENTACLED aliens, 'martian-ish' things or what???

Inquring BARTENTACLES gotta SLISH!!!

Sgt DWW-btod

Black Autumn Productions Inactive Member03 Apr 2009 3:33 p.m. PST

Yes sir I am, in 15mm.
I will have pictures for you soon in fact.

Personal logo Dances With Words Supporting Member of TMP Fezian Inactive Member03 Apr 2009 3:49 p.m. PST

oh happy, happy, joy, joy….I am all 'aslish' with anttislishapation!!!!


(be sure to include website/order/prices and release dates and tell us about the TRUE 'martian attire'…or LACK of it…15mm NEKKID MARTIAN PRINCESSES!!!!???)

Black Autumn Productions Inactive Member03 Apr 2009 4:32 p.m. PST

Hi DwW

I am working on my 15mm WSW range first, but part of it is going to include a Go Go Bar…with lots of fun Aliens & Girls.

I have a full mold, almost, but there is a chance that I will have to tip my sculpting hat to ERB and JCOM. If not in the coming month then perhaps in a few months.


Dropship Horizon Inactive Member03 Apr 2009 5:15 p.m. PST

"That movie was one of the biggest wastes of times I've ever experienced (saw it on TV)"

There does however remain one excellent reason to watch the movie: picture


Personal logo J Womack 94 Supporting Member of TMP04 Apr 2009 8:22 a.m. PST

Dropship: Yeah, she's fine as frog hairs.

Some Martians did. Wear. Freakin. Hats. The Holy Therns wore wigs and some sort of diadem-like thingies.

I don't recall that it says anywhere that Martian warriors never wore helmets. Sounds dumb not to protect the old melon, if you ask me, what with it being such a warlike world. Body armor would have beena waste against all the guns and such, but protecting your brain – or even just your oh so pretty face – from the proliferation of nasty sharp steel out there would only make sense. Most did run about mostly nekkie, though I imagine there was some sort of codpiece on the harness, to keep the boys in check when running about, riding a thoat, etc.

Gah! Can you imagine riding in a glorified jockstrap? Ouch! I gotta have something that comes to the knees at least if its gonna be more than a couple of minutes in saddle.

Lerchey Inactive Member14 Apr 2009 6:40 p.m. PST

The fact that it's not Barsoom works for me. :)

JWOMACK94, I don't have it handy, but I seem to recall a scene in Princess of Mars where they're discussing the fact that Martians have watched Earthlings for a long time. Deja Thoris asks Carter why Earthmen wear things on their heads. In a later book, it's pointed out that one of the off-races (pirates, I think, but it also could have been one of the arctic races) wore helmets.

As to the rest of the whole clothing thing, either they eat, excersize and live better than we do, or they have much lower standards of … acceptable beauty. :)

Black Autumn Productions, on nudity… only if the first part of the last paragraph is true. :D

Thanks all!

Black Autumn Productions Inactive Member14 Apr 2009 7:58 p.m. PST

Rrom the text in the ERB novels, I just pictured super cool dudes with well defined muscels, and red hot perfect women.
Ed tells us many times in the novels that everyone is nude.
John is described as wearing some clothing, but in many scenes he is butt bear, and killing a lot of monsters while all natureal.

John Carter kills a LOT of Monsters.

It was all violent classic art to my mind…


Creative Mage Inactive Member01 Oct 2013 8:39 a.m. PST

We're developing a new cinematic-style RPG set explicitly in Barsoom, drawing primarily on ERBs books as sources, and secondarily on the early comics put out for John Carter.

Any thoughts on what previous attempts at capturing roleplaying on Barsoom have missed? We're aiming for rules-light while still being authentic…

Mugwump30 Oct 2013 8:15 a.m. PST

Win the girl, save the world and have a ripping good adventure while doing it! Coincidences that are good or bad, mistaken identies, palace intrigue, good or evil with no grey areas, meglomanics/mad scientists, underground pits, extreme tribalisum, lost mysteries and dangers, chivalry to the point of suicide, customs with penalities for breaking, lost/isolated civilizations, mental powers, psychic ghosts (Kar Komak), visitors from other planets/moons and other weirdness.

In other words a very open playground for any story that the GM wants to tell. Also a lot of erbs stuff was rooted in his times you will need to update some things for the current day.


The Shadow30 Oct 2013 8:36 p.m. PST

>>a lot of erbs stuff was rooted in his times you will need to update some things for the current day.<<

I disagree completely. If you update the John Carter saga it wouldn't be John Carter anymore. You need to keep all of the preposterous inventions and concepts to make it interesting. Otherwise it would be just another sci-fi based game. And BTW, true science fiction should be avoided at all costs. John Carter is pulp fantasy that coincidentally takes place on Mars. Nothing more.

BlackWidowPilot Fezian Inactive Member30 Oct 2013 11:34 p.m. PST

I have to second The Shadow on this one; it was indeed very much a pulp science fantasy setting, and to take away all of those ridiculously wonderful and wonderfully ridiculous inventions and concepts would be to lose the essence of Edgar Rice Burrough's creative vision.

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express

mrinku05 Nov 2013 6:58 p.m. PST

I was toying with the idea a while back of using the Pendragon rules as the basis of a John Carter game. But rules don't matter – Barsoom is as SF pulp as they some (heck, ERB pretty much *invented* the genre in 1912).

The single best source for Burroughsian gaming I've ever run across is the old Justice Inc (Hero Games) "Lands of Mystery" supplement that Aaron Allston wrote back in 1985. Totally spot on for explaining the structure of an ERB plot and how to make that happen in an RPG context. Good luck finding a copy though.

Mugwump08 Nov 2013 6:36 a.m. PST

What I meant by updating was having an expanded role for women in the game, like Tavia in: Fighting Man of Mars or Dejah Thoris as a scientist in the John Carter movie. Otherwise steampunk and gearpunk will do fine.


DLIinVSF Inactive Member08 Nov 2013 10:06 a.m. PST

mrinku are those "old Justice Inc (Hero Games) "Lands of Mystery" supplement that Aaron Allston wrote back in 1985" rules still in print or on pdf somewhere on the internet?

mrinku10 Nov 2013 4:50 p.m. PST

Not that I have been able to find. There are copies floating about on ebay and Amazon. And I imagine someone may have scanned it illegally, though I would not condone such actions on a public forum.

Don't even know who has the copyright – HERO went through a few changes of ownership and Mr Allston may well have retained some level of control.

Mugwump13 Nov 2013 3:09 p.m. PST


Creative Mage Inactive Member24 Nov 2013 11:52 p.m. PST

Thanks for the responses. I certainly agree that pulp is where the game needs to be, but interestingly, we are designing character templates that give women characters unique abilities unavailable to men.

Also, the Pendragon reference was a happy coincidence! We are indeed looking at adapting the chivalrous aspects of Pendragon to our system (which will be grounded in D6 Legend (with some elements of Wushu and Polarus).

We've got some Thark sketches posted here, for those who might be interested:

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