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WarDepotDavid01 Apr 2009 3:46 p.m. PST

Something really bad happened to me this week so I thought I would let others know so they don't have the same thing happen to them.

About a week ago I decided to get rid of my google account mainly due to it using an old email address and account name that was no longer relevant and the availability of something that was more relevant that I would prefer to use. So I created the 2nd account and got it all up and running well.

Then I moved all by blogs (5 of them) over to that new account and removed them from the old account and logged in and tested each one. Each one worked fine and I went ahead and deleted the old google account.

Once again I logged in and tested each blog and all appeared to be fine.

Then a few days later I logged in and found all my pictures missing.

Here's what happened.

When you add an image to a blogger blog, a Picasa web album is created in your user name to store all the images. When you transfer a blog to a new user name, the Picasa web album stays in the old name for some reason. When you delete your old google username, it drops the connection between the blog under the new name and the picasa web album under the old name.

And don't rely on the help forums helping you out either as I posted on almost every forum for google and bogger and picasa I could find and not one person has any idea how to fix this. And with Google's fantastic support facility (!) means I have lost 2 years worth of work on 5 blogs. All gone. I am Bleeped texted to say the least.

I went back through all the documentation on deleting an account and while it does say that any attached apps will be affected by a google account deletion, there is no reference to picasa which I thought was separate anyhow. If the link between picasa and blogger had separated when I actually moved the blogs as I did it then I would have seen this while the old account was still alive and been able to do something about it. But because it took 2 days to sever the link, I missed it because my testing proved successful.

So be warned! All you hard work could go up in smoke just by tidying things up a bit, even if you do test each step you took to cover yourself.

End of rant. Sorry all I am really upset about this and even more upset at the lack of support from these guys and the community. A lot of work went into my blogs over the years and now I have to start again. And I am know as Mr Cool in my world. I never loose it over anything.

Regards, David
wardepot.blogspot.com | milsims.blogspot.com

btomhutuk01 Apr 2009 3:54 p.m. PST

Sorry to hear that, I lost a 2000 word proposal at work to a server screwup before Christmas and that hurt but to lose 2 years worth of blogs….

Sumo Boy01 Apr 2009 4:09 p.m. PST

@David: thanks for the heads up. It makes me even more wary of putting too many eggs in the Google basket.

Steve Hazuka01 Apr 2009 4:10 p.m. PST

APRIL FOOLS!

Really it's all there I just switched things around. It'll be ok

Brandlin01 Apr 2009 4:27 p.m. PST

i think all of this is actually pretty self evident from the way blogger works.

not that saying i could have told you that AFTER the event is much help…

CPBelt01 Apr 2009 4:40 p.m. PST

This is why I always keep backups of all photos on my own computer. Sorry to hear about the blog photos. I liked them a lot! Grrrr.

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Supporting Member of TMP01 Apr 2009 4:45 p.m. PST

thank you for the warning

Dan 05501 Apr 2009 5:32 p.m. PST

Check out the internet wayback machine for the websites your blogs were on. It creates a backup of (just about) the entire internet about every six months. You might find the pictures there.

WarDepotDavid01 Apr 2009 6:37 p.m. PST

What is this Dan?

How do I use it?

Regards, David
wardepot.blogspot.com | milsims.blogspot.com

WarDepotDavid01 Apr 2009 7:01 p.m. PST

Hi all

Just tried the Internet Archive and because Google has a robots.txt block in place. This stops the Archive's crawlers from backing up anything in Picasa.

Nice work again Google!

The really annoying thing is that when you search through the help forums there are people who have actually had entire accounts restored by google. But only because they know someone high up. So when they say they restore accounts it actually means they refuse to do so.

Regards, David
wardepot.blogspot.com | milsims.blogspot.com

Paul Hurst01 Apr 2009 8:37 p.m. PST

"This is why I always keep backups of all photos on my own computer."

Beats me why everyone doesn't do the same.

Bunkermeister01 Apr 2009 9:14 p.m. PST

I keep all my photos on my computer too.

Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
bunkermeister.blogspot.com

WarDepotDavid01 Apr 2009 9:53 p.m. PST

I do have copies of all my pics.

What it means is that I now need to edit every single post I've ever done with Pics including any of the layout sections and re-add the pic so that the image goes through to the new Picasa web album against the new username. Not so big a deal for a few dozen posts but I have many AARs and detailed tutorials and it can be hard to see which image was in which part of the post.

Regards, David
wardepot.blogspot.com | milsims.blogspot.com

bobstro01 Apr 2009 10:51 p.m. PST

I can understand your frustration, but how could you NOT realize that your google accounts are related? The usernames are in the URL for the album, and there's a google menu at the top of every gallery page.

I also noticed that using the "embed image" feature on the picasa gallery results in a table with the image AND a link with to the gallery with the username inserted. How are you inserting those image links? Did you bypass the link feature they provide?

I don't call this one google's fault, especially for a free service. A painful lesson, to be sure.

I have seen some "blog editors" that allow a page to be created locally, then uploaded. Perhaps one of those might provide a means of backing up your content?

Good luck with the recovery!

- Bob

BigLee02 Apr 2009 2:33 a.m. PST

Huge sympathy from me. I tried changing my layout template a month ago and came to within a gnat's whisker of loosing everything. As it was I lost a lot of my Apps and links. Fortunately I was only looking at loosing a couple of months worth of entries (mine is a relatively new blog on the block) but I was still bug-eyed with shock when I thought I'd lost everything.

BigLee
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Dan 05502 Apr 2009 7:38 a.m. PST

So sorry it didn't work.

jimbeau15 Apr 2009 3:13 p.m. PST

why not just do your own blog, you then retain all the rights and responsibilities of aeverything…

Daffy Doug16 Apr 2009 4:25 p.m. PST

Wow, that is a sad story. And over half a month old too, before I read it. I can't help….

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