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firstvarty197925 Mar 2009 12:44 p.m. PST

I have a load of 15/18mm ACW figures that I have been sitting on for years, but have just never gotten around to. I want to game them with Regiments, and give the look of a battle line by building larger units, but at the same time be able to run moderate-sized battles (5-10,000 men per side).

If I did 1/50 I'd only have a handful of figures (probably 6-8 per Regiment, assuming 3-400 man per regiment) so that wouldn't be good in providing the appearance I want to obtain with long lines of troops in a unit.

1/10 would be very cool, with 30-40 figures per unit, but would take forever to paint.

Given those extremes, I'm guessing that most are in the 1/20 or 1/25 range.

Can anyone tell me what figure-to-man ratios that Johnny Reb and Regimental Fire & Fury (or any other rules) recommend? I know some count bases instead of figures, but a close approximation will do.

Thanks,

John

Oppiedog Supporting Member of TMP25 Mar 2009 12:52 p.m. PST

Seems the latest est. for the release of the Fire & Fury Regimental rules is this coming Historicon. You can check out their discussion group by going to FireandFury.com.

Anyway, the working set of rules has each STAND representing 40 men. It seems like most people go with 3-4 figures per stand.

I'm sure you'll hear alot more about it from others that have been working on the rules/playing them.

jrbatso25 Mar 2009 1:05 p.m. PST

In Johnny Reb 3 each figure represents 30 men.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP25 Mar 2009 1:30 p.m. PST

20/1 goes well. A 400 man regiment, about average at G-burg, would be 20 figs. It works for Old "Rally…" rather well and 2nd JR.

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Supporting Member of TMP25 Mar 2009 2:10 p.m. PST

You should stick with your initial inclination and go the 1:10 rout. I did this with 28mm figurs and it really looks terrific. With 15mm figures, it will take less time to paint them than you imagine.

Bernhard Rauch25 Mar 2009 2:30 p.m. PST

Play some rules systems first and make a decision based on that.

rmcaras25 Mar 2009 2:56 p.m. PST

at Gettysburg the average regiment size was right around 300 men for the Union and 330 for Confederates.

Of course it varied from around 150-160 for some Union II Corps regiments to +600 – +800 for some Confederate units in Hill's Corps

lebooge25 Mar 2009 5:16 p.m. PST

Johnney Reb II and the old "Rally Round the Flag" rules were set at 1:20… the average regiment was around 20 figures.

A lot of it depends on how many regiments you want to field using a 'regimental' set of rules. The higher figure ratios like in Stars & Bars (1:50) or JRIII (1:30) allow you to put more brigades on the tabletop since they take up less space.

Bandit25 Mar 2009 6:32 p.m. PST

Johnny Reb 2 as others have said was 1:20 (my personal favorite ACW rules to date)

Johnny Reb 3 is 1:30 (I haven't played them).

Cheers,

The Bandit

aercdr25 Mar 2009 9:37 p.m. PST

Guns at Gettysburg, the GdB system uses 1/20.

moonhippie326 Mar 2009 6:10 a.m. PST

15 men per figure is ideal when you consider that an artillery battery had up to 150 men, which gives you 3 figures per gun, giving you one artillery gun per section. Also, 2 cavalry figures per stand rounds it out as the most accurate scale ratio that you can come up with.

The scale you would be looking at is 30 yards per inch. I would suggest short, medium, and long range at 5" each.

You can still play the "classic" games, though using the same bases.

quidveritas26 Mar 2009 2:06 p.m. PST

Almost all the rules I play use the 'base' or 'stand'. The number of figures on these bases really does not matter. I have four on most of mine (a few with 3 and fewer still with 5).

The number of men represented is really immaterial.

mjc

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