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Chips8820 Jan 2009 2:04 p.m. PST

Hey Guys -

I was just wondering what set of Computer Moderated Rules and for what period everyone was currently using? Care to comment?

Kimball

captain canada20 Jan 2009 2:41 p.m. PST

I am using Shipbase for WWII naval and carnage and glory for AWI, ACW and Napoleonics


KAM

quidveritas20 Jan 2009 3:51 p.m. PST

Shipbase would be a great set of solo rules.

Our Naval folks use it. I hate it because I don't get to roll dice and there's something that's just too antiseptic about the whole experience.

mjc

The Monstrous Jake20 Jan 2009 8:30 p.m. PST

Depending on which computer I'm running a game on, I still various modified versions of Shipbase III on older machines and the newer Windows version, D-CATR, on anything faster than a Pentium 133.

Even I'm confused by the Shipbase numbering system, so for the next version of D-CATR I'll probably just rename it back to the Shipbase lineup. That would make it Shipbase 8.

Quidveritas: yeah, I know, there's always one or two guys in the groups I've been in over the years who don't like computer assist wargame rules, and the most commonly named reason is because they prefer to roll their own dice. Can't please everyone, sorry. I write the kind of games I like to play.

Crusaderminis21 Jan 2009 12:15 a.m. PST

Top of my list are Carnage & Glory II for anything SYW upto Franco Prussian.

The other rules I've used are Computer Strategies but I dont rate them as highly as C&G II but I think thats down to personal taste as much as anything else.

(Jake Collins of NZ 2)21 Jan 2009 11:50 a.m. PST

Active Armour for WWII divison-scale tank battles.

Old Bear22 Jan 2009 10:55 a.m. PST

I'm still using Blood & Iron for ACW and Hard Pounding for Napoleonics from English Computer Wargames. Not the most user friendly compared to Windows-based stuff but easily the best gaming mecahanics I've ever played, on computer or off it. Plus they are brilliant for solo play.

Chips8827 Jan 2009 9:47 a.m. PST

Guys -

Noone around to game with and so I do the solo bit 90% of the time. Have to travel to Nashville (2hrs) to get a game.

I, too, have ArmourSoft's "SBIII" and use it when I'm doing WWII Naval. Works pretty well. I also have an old DOS set of rules called "Broadside" that works well with the Fighting Sail period.
Also have ArmourSoft's never issued "Treads & Turrets" I use once in a while. David Ferris, if you are out there reading this – you should have finished writing this program! What I have is pretty good!!! :-)

Old Bear – You brought back some memories – I used to have "Blood & Iron" but lost it on one of my moves – really enjoyed it. You still have the original program?

I have "Macedon" which I haven't used much and "Rally Once More 3.0", both by Computer Strategies. I spent a lot of wasted time on Rally but I could never get it to work properly. Rally is now up to version 6 or so. Does anyone know they ever got the bugs out?

CPT Canada, does "Carmage & Glory" work well for ACW? How about using it for solo gaming?

Collins355, I never heard of "Active Armour". Is it only good for divisions or can you get it down to smaller scales? I use 20mm vehicles/figs – platoon and company scales.

Thanks for answering back, guys.

Kimball

Old Bear31 Jan 2009 2:50 a.m. PST

Hi Chips,

I too lost my original set of Blood & Iron but the guys at ECW are still selling the sytem. I think you can get all three sets of rules ccovering 1600-1900 in total for £11.95 GBP which is outstanding value. Here's the link if you are interested link

Chips8803 Feb 2009 1:32 p.m. PST

Thanks Old Bear. I used to know the programmer/writer of the rules years back. Will get in touch with them. Hey Old Bear, I just downloaded a demo from those guys of "Hard Pounding". It will be great to try it out again.

Thanks!!!

Kimball

(Jake Collins of NZ 2)28 Feb 2009 7:07 a.m. PST

Active Armour is really only useful for big WW2 battles with a division on a side. Logistics and other factors play a real role.

47Ronin03 Mar 2009 10:11 p.m. PST

Another vote for Carnage & Glory. I have used it to run AWI, ACW & FPW games. Also played the Nap. version on a regular basis. Like others, I would love to see a version of C&G for ECW or Colonials.

I have also played Shipbase for WW2 naval. It's always a fun game.

JoeDodgy08 Mar 2009 4:15 p.m. PST

I'm looking for a system to run WWII campaigns for me – is there one in existance at the moment?

I play 1/300th 1:1 Company to Regiment sized actions in the main using a variety of rules sets, and have been thinking more and more about running a campaign to give a 'bigger picture' to the individual battles that take place.

To do this without a heap of paperwork, I'd love to find some sort of computer program that takes care of the logistics and strategic movement. So does one exist?

Mitch.

Supergrover686821 Apr 2009 2:37 a.m. PST

Berthiar can work even for eras other then Napoleonic. There used to be a Cocat for World war two it may still be around.

Supergrover686802 May 2009 12:55 p.m. PST

I found Cocoat is still around works good for low unit level campaigns. You can load any map you have on it.

PyrricVictory10 May 2009 4:08 p.m. PST

Hi

I use the Computer Strategies games and find them quite satisfactory. They have land, naval grand tactical and Campaign modules and cover most periods so you dont have to learn a new game system to go to a new period. You can see their site at

link

22ndFoot29 Dec 2009 8:28 a.m. PST

Has anyone tried to run Shipbase III on a Windows 7 machine?

Thanks,

Jon

DeckApe29 Dec 2009 12:09 p.m. PST

Can I get Carnage And Glory in the UK? I fancy running AWI games with it.

jefferysl05 Jan 2010 3:13 p.m. PST

Monstrous Jake;
I've been to your website, any work done on your Panzer IV project (the replacement for "Treads and Turrets")? I've tried "Iron Tigers" from Computer Strategies (mentioned by PyrricVictory)and, although the system has a lot of potential, it needs some polishing before I would recommend it.

47Ronin06 Jan 2010 4:01 p.m. PST

DeckApe,

FYI, you can get Carnage and Glory directly from the author of the rules. (He lives in the U.S. but is from the U.K.) I have used it for AWI, ACW and FPW, to name a few. Just google "Carnage and Glory" and it will take you to the web page. You can order from there. Enjoy the rules.

Chips8806 Jan 2010 5:05 p.m. PST

Guys -

With all the great programmers and games out you would think that someone could program a fantastic computer opponent for us solo gamers to use with our miniatures. I mean something better than "the right flank will move forward" or "the left flank will retreat". An indepth computer opponent that would come back with maneuvars that match closer to our responses to the program's questions.

Anybody ever run into something like that or am I still dreaming??????


Monsterous Jake -
You rewriting the "Treads & Turrets" program? Sure would be nice if you could convert it to solo gaming, huh?

The Monstrous Jake07 Jan 2010 10:45 a.m. PST

Monsterous Jake -
You rewriting the "Treads & Turrets" program? Sure would be nice if you could convert it to solo gaming, huh?

I'm buried in projects right now, mostly concentrating on writing my second novel, but yes, I've got a re-work of Treads & Turrets in the pile.

Nearly all my wargaming is solo these days, so I'm very keen on the idea too. There is a game group over an hour away from me, but they're not much interested in what I'm doing and vice versa.

gregoryk12 Jan 2010 4:07 p.m. PST

Funny this topic should come up, since I was just thinking of Computer Strategies vs Carnage & Glory and what their differences might be. There was a very good Age of Sail computer-moderated game back a few years whose name I have forgotten, that handled everything, including movement and ranging. One computer could be set up as the "master" computer, and the other "slaved" to it, so both sides could enter their moves simultaneously. Worked wonderfully well. Some chap and his son put the WRG armor rules into a computer program — another rules app I have lost track of. And then there was the truly excellent Battlefleet: The War at Sea, a DOS game that tried to make the jump into Windows and WWII but was abandoned by the developer.

All good stuff!


Cheers,
gregoryk

gregoryk13 Jan 2010 2:08 p.m. PST

Clear for Action by Malcolm Smalley was the naval Age of Sail rules set.

Chips8825 Jan 2010 10:34 a.m. PST

Gregoryk -

My understanding is that 'Clear for Action'(CFA) is no longer available for purchase. I am stuck with my old DOS game "Broadsides". It still works with my 1/1200 Fighting Sail but has a couple of bugs that occasionally cause a restart and consequently loss of data. I had heard that CFA was a good, stable program.

JoeDodgy – Berthiar is an interesting program that you can use for just about anything involving campaigns. Takes some imagination and getting used to but works well.

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Jonnytwosocks01 Aug 2011 4:31 a.m. PST

Battleships Zenith from NWS for WW2 naval
Dreadnoughts Rising from NWS for WW1 naval
Carnage and Glory for AWI
Desert Whirlwind for modern land – but not had much of a go
Clear for action for Age of Sai

suntzu77705 Aug 2011 5:54 a.m. PST

Eight bells


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