"GETTYSBURG - 2nd DAY (Joe's Pics)" Topic

Here are a couple of links to a Gettyburg game (2nd Day) that we played last October (‘08).

This is the link to the pictures of the troop set-ups prior to play:

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And this link will take you to the pics of the game itself:

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Enjoy!

Great photos…loved the massed infantry. I also admire the quality of your terrain very much.

Excellent figures and scenary! And a good example of how different figures can mix together just fine! Good job! I hope it was as fun as it looks!

Nice! I only wish there were labels on the photos to identify what part of the battle you were representing.

Fantastic looking.

Brlliant! Thanks for all the great pics.

Took a long time for the link to connect, and then had trouble with the scroll feature.

Have to check again later.

What little I saw, though, looked great.

JW

Wow! That was truly amazing. Beautiful terrain and figs.

Thanks,

John

Astonishing!

Really, just beautiful.

Fabulous!

hussarbob1746.webs.com

Being one who loves he small details I compliment you. I have a few questions.

Where did you get the camp stove, cooks, barber, and bath tub minis here?
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WHo makes this surgeon and table?
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Great stuff!
Sean

The camp stove, cooks, barber, bath tub minis, surgeon and table were supplied by Terry Thornton. They are mostly custom conversions. Terry provides a custom figure service:

artmasterstudio.co.uk

How do you make your trees?

Wow. I just got a sensory overload. I think that is one of the most impressive things I have ever seen. What rules are being used? I'm sure it says somewhere and I just overlooked it. I noticed some Union zouaves flying a Louisiana state flag-- some Tigers pressed into Yankee service for a day I guess. Awesome display and the attention to the smallest details is amazing.

Very, very cool. As someone who's just starting to get into ACW (and historicals in general) this is very inspiring. Makes me want to pick up the brush!

Hi Joe,

I had a query in relation to basing. Most of the figure are based in 2 ranks of 4 per base. This does make for quite a good look. Considering these are 28mm figures?? this would be quite an unusual basing configuration for some of the more common ACW rules. This is only 2 figures short per base to what most 10mm figures are arranged to. So just how large does this make your bases, is this an issue for terrain scaling or was that not a major concern and what was the decision process for going this way?
I'm curious because I originally was looking at basing 4-5 figures in 2 loose ranks but I was then moving towards doing 2 ranks of 3 to give a more closed ACW feel, but after looking at your pics I really like the look but starting me thinking whether this has a lot of downsides in relation to terrain, cost in figure count, and having such a wide base. (I assume bases would be min 2 inches wide). Ultimately I'll need to work through these issues myself based on what best works for me but always interested in knowing what someone elses decisions for going a certain way were.
Thanks
Daniel

If this is Gettysburg, what are the Army of the Tennessee's flags doing there? (the blue one's with a white dot in the middle) Anyway, great looking table, though the figures aren't particularly well sculpted

"Other than that Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the play?"

Priceless.

terry thornton did not supply the bath tub and barber,
i supplied those many years ago for ron ringrose.
when he was living at his old house in gt warley,
i dont mind not being credited,but dislike someone else being credited for my work,
bob kiff

Hello Bob, great to see you posting here, hope all is well on your end mate, long time no chat, take good care of yourself.

For those of you who do not know Bob, he is an incredible figure painter who hails from the Uk, he has painted many of my figures and he is a top shelf person to boot.

Regards,
George Guerriero
aka "Double G"

hi george,
thanks for that.
lost your e-mail can you message me with it please,
regards bob kiff

Hi Bob,

I would give up on getting any credit for the hundreds of figs you painted, although I am sure its not Joe's fault, but you can console yourself in that you never had to play any games at Ron's?

Cheers Paul

One heck of a lot of very good stuff, well photographed too, not an easy thing to do!! Is this one persons collection or a club, or several guys stuff??

I will keep this simple for you Joe.

I made a huge Waterloo layout for Robert Browning and I won't here go into how I was ripped off in doing so, that's for another day. He did do some of the donkey work as he wanted to put a game on with it, but in no way sculptured ,painted or did anything creative towards it.

In this hobby as in life, if you want to get known you get off your back sides and do some work. What you do not do is take credit for other peoples hard work and skills in a feeble effort to get some attention.

You have posted on the Wargames Society website (and possibly other) that Ron Ringrose made this Waterloo terrain. This huge layout has received a lot of aclaim, and so i ask why would you do that other than in a dishonest way to give credit to Ringrose.

You know I made it so please do not claim you did not know.

You have also suggested on this site that other terrain layouts, including the Waterloo terrain was made by either Robert Browning and Ron Ringrose, as well as given credit for painted figures to others and not Bob Kiff.

I want no association with either of Browning or Ringrose, but strongly object to the dishonest credit given to them to massage their fragile ego's.

Unless all credits posted here and elsewhere are not fully changed to reflect the truth, I will take legal action against yourself and those who have told you to do so.

Cheers Paul Darnell

To Paul Darnell (HistoryInc).

I have addressed all of your false accusations and responded to your threat of legal action, on this thread:

TMP link

For the record, the terrain boards in the Gettysburg photo report were constructed by Ron & Sue Ringrose.

Paul, I don't know about the parentage of the boards, but I've copied your exact style from your books for some of my buildings. I also use your suggestion of Sandtex paints for the buildings and terrain. Its not a great leap to believe that someone might like the style you use to make things and then replicate it for themselves. Your books gave everyone a blow by blow account of how its done after all.
Does that mean that I should use the credit line "in the style of Paul Darnell" if I use Sandtex Bitter Chocolate to paint anything?
I do like your terrain style and its not a great surprise that others do too, hence they might want to make some themselves.

Hi,

Just to say that the credits have been today changed and many thanks for that Joe.

Thanks too for all the comments posted here and other threads, and I should have done this another way but you live and learn, perhaps slowly in my case. Best not to make posts late at night in anger.

It was never about getting any credits and there is a whole lot more to this than Joe or anyone on TMP knows about, but I should not have used this forum to shout out loud.

I say sorry to Joe for calling his name into question as although I do not know him, I am sure he was not aware of who made the terrain and believed the person who said he had.

Cheers Paul