raducci | 04 Jan 2009 3:28 p.m. PST |
Although some people remain loyal to favoured rule sets seemingly forever, others discard and move on, often after relatively short periods. Id be interested to know why people drop rules that they have gamed with for some time. Is it because they grow bored and find their games have become predictable after having played numerous games? Are they following fashion and moving on to the next new thing? Having completed an army for that set, do they crave the fun of building new armies with new boundaries? Do the flaws you find in every set finally get to them? Do they change, maybe reluctantly, in order to find new opponents? |
RobH | 04 Jan 2009 3:36 p.m. PST |
I changed Microtank WW2, 15mm Napoleonic and 15mm Renaissance rules three or four times. Each time as the size of my collection and the number of figures I wanted to get onto the table outgrew the ability of the ruleset to cope. For Fantasy, Gothic Horror and such in 28mm I changed to one single set of rules that can be adapted to cover all genres of skirmish. Easier to remember and keep track of than a different set for each genre/period. Could be an interesting poll (and worrying for people who make their living selling rules!) |
chronoglide | 04 Jan 2009 3:45 p.m. PST |
i'm more interested in another related phenomenon
.why people abandon games when the company that makes it goes bust , drops support or releases a new edition
.the number of times i see people posting that they're going to sell alll their stuff because their favourite game is going flat
.why do they not keep playing?
bizarre
.i've never stopped loving a whole host of games now consigned to the history books
.maybe it's an age thing
.? |
raducci | 04 Jan 2009 4:02 p.m. PST |
Is this another phenomenon? I think some do drop rules when a company goes belly-up because they like that sense of using rules that still have a dynamic support system. |
chronoglide | 04 Jan 2009 4:21 p.m. PST |
i think a reliance on a constantly expanding game environment is a bad thing
.when was the last expansion for chess released?
.still as popular today as ever
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Martin Rapier | 04 Jan 2009 4:26 p.m. PST |
Just the thrill of the new, I like to try stuff out and I like to tinker. Some games you just come back to time after time, but I can't think of many sets of rules I play which are more than 10 years old, despite hankering back to the good days of WRG 1925-50. I couldn't care less if a company supports them or not, and it isn't usually about buying new toys (it is sometimes), just an interesting new angle on military simulation. |
Saber6 | 04 Jan 2009 4:42 p.m. PST |
Each time it has been because I shifted to a system that was better for me. Usually for games that could be resolved in a practical amount of time (4-6 Hours) and with a system that supports combined arms. I tend to keep the older sets, I just move my games and collection to something else. |
vojvoda | 04 Jan 2009 5:19 p.m. PST |
For me it is more just trying something new but I tend to stick with what works for me. Ancients I have played almost everything from Chainmail to Fields of Glory. I generally stick with Classical Hack, Ancient Warfare and Warhammer Ancient Battles. Napoleonics I played Frappe to Shako II. I have come back to Grande Armee and Eagle and Empire. ACW I started with On To Richmond and have just finished reading Guns at Gettysburg. I am still a JRIII fan. I too collect rules looking for new ideas and to see what others are playing but in the end I stick to what I like but I am willing to play other systems. VR James Mattes |
chronoglide | 04 Jan 2009 5:33 p.m. PST |
i must admit i read more systems than i play, far too many to ever hope to game, in fact
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Lentulus | 04 Jan 2009 5:36 p.m. PST |
Not often, but I find myself adapting with my friends to what works for all of us. |
John the OFM | 04 Jan 2009 5:53 p.m. PST |
I keep coming back to 1776 and The Sword and the Flame. They ain't broke. |
Privateer4hire | 04 Jan 2009 7:53 p.m. PST |
First, I prefer when games don't have a ton of expansions. From only about 10 years playing wargames, I've seen that (like RPGs), the more stuff that gets added on, the more unbalanced games tend to become. That said, here's a reason for playing a more recent version: Opponent Availability If I play one of GW's big two and keep up with the newest edition, I have a much better chance of finding someone to play against than if I play something else including an older edition of 40k/WHFB. I'm not thrilled with having to buy two separate forces for any non-'mainstream' game either. |
Buff Orpington | 05 Jan 2009 5:01 a.m. PST |
i'm more interested in another related phenomenon
.why people abandon games when the company that makes it goes bust , drops support or releases a new edition The flip side of that is when people drop a game because they are fed up with the constant updating or decide to ignore anything after a particular point. I know Battletech players who have frozen the timeline that they will play. |
Capt John Miller | 05 Jan 2009 5:12 a.m. PST |
I bailed out of Classic BTech when the rules for "outbound" "inbound" came up. Come on, a missile that damages the external armor AND internal armor REGARDLESS if the external armor is gone or not? Mechs like the Wasp, Stinger, Locust would NEVER stand a chance to fight period. |
Rdfraf | 05 Jan 2009 9:32 a.m. PST |
The popularity of the colonial set of rules, "Sword and the Flame" seems to have lasted the test of time. It's probably about 30 years old and still very popular. |
chronoglide | 05 Jan 2009 11:35 a.m. PST |
Mongoose seem to be guilty of needless revisionism
i love their games, but they do seem to do a lot of 'patching' after a game is released
.a year of patching then V2.0 hits the shelves and the old version hits ebay
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SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER | 05 Jan 2009 1:33 p.m. PST |
Most of my changing comes from everybody else changing. I was willing to play WRG 7th, but every body had switched to DBA/M. Now it's Fog, and I enjoy it enough that I don't m ind the change. Changing to WAB was a pain, then every body dropped it for Warmaster. |