14th Brooklyn | 26 Nov 2008 6:25 a.m. PST |
There is always a lot of discussion regarding the scale of miniatures. We all know that if one manufacturer says that his minis are X mm´s tall they might well be shorter or taller then anothers who says the same. Why? Same manufacturers say it is correct to measure from the bottom of the integral base, others from the soles of the feet. Some say the measure to the eyes, others to the top of the head and still others to the top of the headgear. This accounts for al the differences in scale. Should we not introduce a "TMP scale" (from where to where the minis get measured could be determined by another poll). There could be a new field that manufacturers have to fill out on their information page on TMP as well as in news regports. That way people would actually know what they buy. Thoughts? Cheers, Burkhard |
vtsaogames | 26 Nov 2008 6:28 a.m. PST |
The old Courier had the Barrett scale, measured from bottom of feet to eyes and light, medium or heavy for heft. Thus a figure might be 16M on the Barrett scale. |
14th Brooklyn | 26 Nov 2008 6:34 a.m. PST |
Vincent, this is exactly what I was thinking. |
Martin Rapier | 26 Nov 2008 6:34 a.m. PST |
The Barret scale sounds useful. Of course measurements aren't scales at all, they are measurements, a scale is 1/300th, 1/100th, 1/76th, /48th etc, but in the absence of many figures being marketed in that way (and some of the ones which are, actually aren't the advertised scale anyway), then actual measures foot to eye would be very useful. |
Parmenion | 26 Nov 2008 7:00 a.m. PST |
I agree that it would be very helpful to know specific and consistent measurements of miniatures from different manufacturers. The first thing I think when I see new '28mm' figures advertised is "but are they the same size as my other '28mm' figures?" The light, medium and heavy rating could also be useful but is more subjective in its application, and in any case ought to be more readily discernable from photos. |
Gallowglass | 26 Nov 2008 7:12 a.m. PST |
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Bob in Edmonton | 26 Nov 2008 9:29 a.m. PST |
The old Wargames Directory used to have table containing who made figures in what era and scale. That table (with links to the manufacturers' website) plus a consistent sizing (information populated by TMPer) would be a huge boon for new gamers or gamers getting into a new genre. |
aecurtis | 26 Nov 2008 12:37 p.m. PST |
You could ask TMPer Master Caster what he thinks of the idea--although he hasn't visited since last week. Allen |
Farstar | 26 Nov 2008 1:36 p.m. PST |
Not sure I care to *try* to impose a regular definition of scale at the manufacturers level, but a common frame of reference for purchasers would be nice. |
Pat Ripley | 26 Nov 2008 3:00 p.m. PST |
The size of the body is less important than the size of the weapons. For instance we know pretty much the real size of pilum, gladius and sheild(brain failing
scutum?). So as long as they are to scale then the sculptors have to get the body proportions right to them. Using weapon dollies rather than resculpting a weapon each time gives this consistency. |
Kampfgruppe Cottrell | 26 Nov 2008 9:51 p.m. PST |
Best thing to do is just pic a line and stay with them or just don't worry about the creep and just enjoy your gaming. You will never get a straight answer because there is no right or wrong answer so just buy up some lead, paint it up and game with it because if you let it, scale creep will eat you up. Brian |