Cacique Caribe | 22 Nov 2008 7:32 p.m. PST |
Ok. This is what I started: link As you can see, I am stuck. The "fort" is missing the following: 1) ring of sharpened stakes (I am just waiting to do last); 2) some sort of gate; and 3) a "rolled-up canvas" tent addition, to make the bottom of the tower look like it is used as sleeping quarters at night (I don't think real fabric would roll up all that well) I need ideas for items 2 (gate) and 3 (rolled-up canvas thingie). Any suggestions? Thanks. CC TMP link |
shelldrake | 22 Nov 2008 7:46 p.m. PST |
WOW! Great looking 'This!!!' Gate – maybe similar to the walls, only like a portcullis on a castle – is raised and lowered rather than swinging open. That way if any nasties try to get in, the spiky bits at the bottom will pin it to the ground. Rolled up tent – ? foil rolled/wrapped around something to help keep a bit of shape? Depending on the scale, some WW2 tank stowage might be of assistance with a blanket roll. |
Cacique Caribe | 22 Nov 2008 7:50 p.m. PST |
"is raised and lowered rather than swinging open" Would that need higher posts on either side, you think? "some WW2 tank stowage . . . a blanket roll" That's brilliant!!! Now, if I could find something in the right dimensions. Thanks so much. CC |
Xintao | 22 Nov 2008 8:15 p.m. PST |
What about like in Braveheart, when they first rebel. There's a gate that levers open, counter balanced weight on the top. The bottom swings out, that way dumb dino's pushing against it can't open it. Cool looking fort. Good luck. Cheers, Xin |
Cacique Caribe | 22 Nov 2008 8:33 p.m. PST |
Xin, I LIKE THAT! Thanks. CC |
Echo5Hotel | 22 Nov 2008 9:29 p.m. PST |
Hey CC, Years ago when I used to do a lot of scratch 1/35 scale modeling I used to make stowage by cutting toilet paper to size, shape it / roll it as needed, saturate it with super glue, give it about 20 minutes or less and paint as needed. I used to do anything that was supposed to be "cloth" that way. Either paper or toilet paper depending on what I was doing. |
Cacique Caribe | 22 Nov 2008 11:24 p.m. PST |
I'll see what I can do to duplicate this rolled look (one for each of the four sides, that is): picture picture If not, then something like this: picture CC |
Warrenss2 | 22 Nov 2008 11:34 p.m. PST |
"1) ring of sharpened stakes (I am just waiting to do last)" – bamboo skewers – in the barBQ or cooking section. "3) a "rolled-up canvas" tent addition" – just a quick thought
I know you've gotten some great suggestions
could aluminum foil work? Warren |
sneakgun | 22 Nov 2008 11:54 p.m. PST |
How about a huge tyranosaurus skull that opens to allow entry and exit? The tent would be a stretched dino skin brightly colored. |
Jamesonsafari | 23 Nov 2008 10:19 a.m. PST |
If you're just worried about keeping out beasties how about a barricade made with Xs of sharpened stakes, then it's easy to remove. Or a moat and drawbridge. |
Smokey Roan | 23 Nov 2008 11:36 a.m. PST |
Moat and drawbridge seconded! (Everyone loves a drwabridge over a moat) BTW, great work so far CC! |
HG Walls | 23 Nov 2008 11:47 a.m. PST |
CC, I've had good luck using cloth material (in many cases old shirts), rolling it up and tying it with heavy thread to represent rope. I soak the 'canvas' rolls in white glue and water, painting after everything is dry (usually after 24 hours). This technique works especially well if you want the canvas roll to fit in unique places, like following the contours of a car fender or hanging over the edge of a walkway or tank turret. Oops, almost forgot to mention the nice job you're doing with your project. Looks Great, Herb |
Cpt Arexu | 23 Nov 2008 12:27 p.m. PST |
You have spikes on the end of your overhangs but perhaps you should add spikes crosswise there too. |
Cacique Caribe | 23 Nov 2008 2:04 p.m. PST |
James On Safari: "a barricade made with Xs of sharpened stakes" Hadn't thought of Xs. I may give that a try. Capt. Arexu: "add spikes crosswise there too" Crosswise? Do you mean diagonally? CC |
Soldat | 23 Nov 2008 2:07 p.m. PST |
You also need to keep out the flying dinos |
Cacique Caribe | 23 Nov 2008 2:13 p.m. PST |
Most of those flying reptiles were actually gliders. I thought the the higher upright spikes would take care of it. Do you think that's not enough then? I was hoping to still have access to the figures inside, without getting my fingers and hands impaled. :) CC |
Cpt Arexu | 23 Nov 2008 4:29 p.m. PST |
I see spikes sticking out (away from the hill) the end of your overhanging platforms, but not on either side of the platforms. Your flooring timbers all run from side to side, it seems like a few of them ought to stick out beyond the edges to give you spiky goodness
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nurgledeathmonkey | 23 Nov 2008 4:43 p.m. PST |
A dish towel cut to shape and rolled in watered-down pva glue for the canvas material. Tie it off with needle point thread. |
J Womack 94 | 23 Nov 2008 6:23 p.m. PST |
Good grief! If you add any more spikey bits, you'll have to call GW to make sure you haven't infringed on their IP! But I likes it, I do. I think a drawbridge would be very cool. But, it may be a bit late in the day for that kind of an addition. If you built a second rise just adjacent, with a ramp going up to it, so that the drawbridge could be lowered across to it, that might be good. Or, you could build the gate much like anotehr section of wall, hinged at the base, hoisted up from the ground outside the walls and into place as needed – I guess every night! During the day, its the wooden ramp to get up tot he fort. I would avoid a normal swinging gate, though. You want something really sturdy, and a split down the middle of a gate isn't it. A cheveaux-aux-frise (sp?) – a timber studded with spikes – that blocks the entrance would be the easy way to go. My $0.05 USD worth, at any rate. I had to start charging more than two cents, as the price of gum has gone up again
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MrDodo | 24 Nov 2008 2:34 a.m. PST |
Very nice work, CC. I find that most real fabric looks wrong unless you want large, lose weave. I'd experiment with masking tape for areas of canvas- the tape width corresponds to scale with the average width of the sewn together canvas panels on tents, and the foil off the top of a wine bottle for the roll. This stuff is great for flags etc as well. For some reason I have large amounts of it too! |
Warrenss2 | 24 Nov 2008 5:46 a.m. PST |
"I've had good luck using cloth material (in many cases old shirts), rolling it up and tying it with heavy thread to represent rope. I soak the 'canvas' rolls in white glue and water, painting after everything is dry (usually after 24 hours)." "A dish towel cut to shape and rolled in watered-down pva glue for the canvas material. Tie it off with needle point thread." Sometimes the sheer simplicity of what I read here makes me feel like a total goofenheimer (a word of my own devising
copy write pending ;-) ). And I mean that in the best possible way. I can't wait to give this a try. Thanks, guys. I third the idea for a drawbridge & moat (or at least a ditch). Has to be wide though. Raptors have been know to jump pretty far in all the fictional material that I've been subject to. |
Soldat | 24 Nov 2008 8:27 a.m. PST |
I use applesauce foil tops for flags and material like canvas, I believe linen or gauze would work as well. I would say a suspended net should do the trick. Don't want the dino birds landing and eating all the helpless nappers. |
Smokey Roan | 24 Nov 2008 8:28 a.m. PST |
What about a primitive hot air balloon made of animal skins (like the one the jungle boy flew on that "Gilligans Island" episode) to combat flying reptiles? |
Bellbottom | 24 Nov 2008 10:18 a.m. PST |
Foil from cigarette packets has (or used to have) that textured effect pattern which makes it ideal for cloth regards Paul F |
Pat Ripley | 24 Nov 2008 8:00 p.m. PST |
That wall looks suspiciously like a nori mat on its side :) The tops off the small cat or dog food containers have good textured foil too. I'll have to echo the thought that this is a cool project. |
Warrenss2 | 25 Nov 2008 2:55 a.m. PST |
smokeyroan, are you giving away your age here? "What about a primitive hot air balloon made of animal skins (like the one the jungle boy flew on that "Gilligans Island" episode)
" Or just your warped sense of TV viewing? ;-) Kudos for the bamboo placement mat!! I was going to do the bamboo skewers route, but might change my mind if I can find the mats. Or, maybe I should make it a mixture of both materials? |
Cacique Caribe | 25 Nov 2008 6:46 a.m. PST |
LOL. The thicker uprights ARE bamboo skewers! CC |
Warrenss2 | 25 Nov 2008 10:14 a.m. PST |
JWOMACK94, you're first name wouldn't happen to be "Jeff" would it? Ever lived in Augusta, GA? |