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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP21 Nov 2008 7:33 p.m. PST

Did the British maintain any regular Lancer cavalry regiments in India in the 1875-1900 era?
I am just finishing up some British khaki Lancers for a friend, and am going to stick them in a TSATF NW Frontier game tomorrow, regardless of the answer. grin

Seriously, though…
With all the Indian cavalry lancers, would that be like taking coals to Newcastle?

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Nov 2008 7:46 p.m. PST

They don't use coal in Newcastle?

I Jim I21 Nov 2008 7:47 p.m. PST

"What occurred in this case? The 9th Lancers, a magnificent regiment, as fine a record behind it as any in the British Army, after distinguished service in South Africa, arrived in India and went to Sialkote."

[I fixed the link]
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Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Supporting Member of TMP21 Nov 2008 7:52 p.m. PST

The link doesn't work.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP21 Nov 2008 7:57 p.m. PST

While the Indian Army did have lots of lancer regiments the Brits did have the Indian Mutiny on the back of their minds, and as such wanted to make sure that there some units of unquestionable reliability around – although, to be fair to the British Army of India, Indian troops in British service delivered loyal and heroic service not only on the Northwest Frontier but also in WWI and WWII

I Jim I21 Nov 2008 8:08 p.m. PST

"During the Indian mutiny of 1857, the 9th Lancers earned the name the Delhi Spearmen, a name which is believed to have been given to them by the mutineers themselves. … The Lancers were posted to Afghanistan during the Second Anglo-Afghan War, 1878–1880. Again they received the Bronze Star for taking part in Major General Sir Frederick Roberts march from Kabul to the relief of Kandahar."

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aecurtis Fezian21 Nov 2008 8:17 p.m. PST

The 16th Lancers were the first regiment there, first from 1822 to 1846, and then from 1865 to 1877. A go: barely.

The 3d Bengal European Light Cavalry was raised in India in 1858; it became the 21st Hussars in 1861, and was designated 21st Lancers in 1897. But they were in India as Hussars from 1861 to 1873, and again from 1887 to 1896. As lancers, they were only in India from 1912 to 1918. A no-go.

But that's just the first hits of an easy Google, John.

Allen

Jamesonsafari21 Nov 2008 8:22 p.m. PST

For historical accuracy British cavalry regiments were used in the interior for garrison/internal security work. On the Frontier it was all Guides and Bengal lancers I'm afraid. Although for a big campaign like the 2nd Afghan War the British regiments would be brought to the front.

That hasn't stopped me from doing some British lancers though.

I Jim I21 Nov 2008 8:23 p.m. PST

Heres' a picture: picture

with the following caption: "9th Lancers on the Line of March from Kabul to Kandahar"


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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP21 Nov 2008 8:57 p.m. PST

Thank you.
9th Lancers it is, then!

rmaker21 Nov 2008 11:40 p.m. PST

They don't use coal in Newcastle?

Yes, but it's the major port for northern England's largest coal mining region. One carries coals FROM no TO Newcastle.

chronoglide22 Nov 2008 5:03 a.m. PST

Do you like Kipling?
I don't know, I've never Kipled….

Jamesonsafari22 Nov 2008 10:23 a.m. PST

John. note that the fellows in the pictures, being in the 2nd Afghan War are still wearing their blue pants under the khaki tunics.

Just in case one wished to be picayune about things…..

(My lancers are all khaki for service in South Africa or the Sudan as well)

James

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP22 Nov 2008 11:43 a.m. PST

John. note that the fellows in the pictures, being in the 2nd Afghan War are still wearing their blue pants under the khaki tunics.

Yeah, I saw that. I ignored it, too.

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