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oneway7621 Nov 2008 3:20 p.m. PST

Found this article on today. Very nice pics as well. Unbelievable preservation, you can see what looks like bronze bells and leather on the chariot.

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Jovian121 Nov 2008 3:30 p.m. PST

Four-Wheeled "Chariot" – wouldn't that be called a "cart" or did the Thracians use Dual wheels for stability? grin I just wonder if they know what they have found or if it is a mistake in the translation or what.

lugal hdan21 Nov 2008 3:42 p.m. PST

The Thracian "Dualie" was a special off-road chariot favored by the more rustic Thracians. They frequently drove them to their Naschar events.

Jovian121 Nov 2008 3:58 p.m. PST

"Go down and race your dualie, . . ." to the Kingston Trio Tom Dooley. wink

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian21 Nov 2008 4:46 p.m. PST

Two wheels are used, one is a spare, and the fourth is for steering.

Rudysnelson21 Nov 2008 4:52 p.m. PST

Would not 1,800 years ago be more Sarmatian in the Bulgarian region. It is about 200AD, post-Thracian army time like we refer to them in gaming.

Hrothgar Returns21 Nov 2008 4:59 p.m. PST

I'm sure 'chariot' sounds more dramatic, but seems more like a funerary cart/hearse.

Maybe Dacian?

Steve Hazuka21 Nov 2008 5:17 p.m. PST

Two wheels good, four wheels better.

Dn Jackson21 Nov 2008 5:38 p.m. PST

"Four-Wheeled "Chariot" – wouldn't that be called a "cart""

No, it's the ancient version of a minivan. If you look carefully in picture 3 you can see a car seat for an infant and a booster for a six year old.

zippyfusenet21 Nov 2008 5:51 p.m. PST

Actually Jovian1, a two-wheeled vehicle *is* a cart. A four-wheeled vehicle is a wagon. A chariot is properly a type of cart.

Why on earth do I care?

aecurtis Fezian21 Nov 2008 6:03 p.m. PST

"…in southeastern Bulgaria."

Here's Karanovo:

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You can zoom out and see where it lay in the classical world, just south of the Haemus Mountains:

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That was Thrakia to the Greeks, and the province of Thracia to the Romans. "Thrace" is not anachronistic for that location in the c.2nd-3rd CE.

Just barely.

Allen

Jovian121 Nov 2008 9:40 p.m. PST

three wheels on my wagon and I'm still roll'in along, . . .

Sundance22 Nov 2008 7:11 a.m. PST

Hey, they have three wheeled chariots today – why not back then? Oh, you said four wheels…

Ditto Tango 2 122 Nov 2008 8:27 p.m. PST

Regardless of its status, the article is a sad statement on cultural awareness there when the archaeologist says: "we are in an uneven race with looters who are often better equipped than our teams". frown
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Tim

Warrenss222 Nov 2008 11:16 p.m. PST

"No, it's the ancient version of a minivan."

It's called a SUV – Spartan Utility Vehicle. ;-)

Pretty nifty article.

aecurtis – that Satellite Images of Karanovo site blew my mind. I've added it into my favs.

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