"Renegade WW2 - better in the flesh?" Topic

GBP6.00 a pack but I can't bring myself to order. The Germans mostly look dreadful. From crotch up they look fine but those legs appear far too short.

Is this an optical illusion or are they indeed as "off" as they appear online?

I've been wondering that myself. The photographs do seem to distort them a little as they all look a little stumpy like you are looking at them from below.

I plan on buying a pack of the MG-42s because the one model carrying the MG looks good enough to tempt me into seeing what these are like in the flesh.

Does anyone have any of these models yet? What do you think?

The one thing that bothers me immensely is that the MG gunners sometimes have MP-40 pouches, sometimes Kar pouches, and sometimes they have the correct gunners pouch and a pistol on their belt.

Seems like the sculptor got really lazy and just slapped the MG on a model he already had without worrying about equipment.

Very sloppy, and in this day and age we expect better.

Also, it would be nice if the packs with LMGs had assistants rather than just repeating the poses.

Jury is still out on these for me.

Yes I am very leery – I too noticed a few equipment errors on the figs.

Photographs can lie and I hope that the Renegade ones are telling less than the whole truth. I would be surprised if they actually released a dud range.

There are a few figures that look presentable but GBP6.00 for a pack with two dupes of the one nice figure and six midgets isn't going to work for me.

Hopefully someone will let us know what these chaps look like in actuality.

Every bit as important is: are these as large as their other lines? If so then they won't match at all with Artizan, Crusader, BTD, and BAM.

I have some WWI French and some AWI infantry, and they are pretty nice figures.

However – they tend to be BIG and don't mix well with the existing figures I have.

The ECWs & ACWs I bought are nice. The others look decent too.

Its the apparent lack of quality that scares me.

Does anyone have any photos to put this to rest?

I for one would not mind seeing more pictures, however I will say I am glad to see more WWII lines :)

If they keep them comming we shold have a great deal covered of weapons, poses and nations and such, I remember when there was hardly any 28mm W.W.II

But I would still love to see more pictures though.

MMMMMMMM! MMMMMMMph! GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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Tim (with a gag)

that guy toting the lmg on his shoulder, holding by the bipod, is very similar to a BH pose I have in my collection – looks war-weary enough…

SOme nice poses but the legs, the legs!

Perhaps they are going for the "Gangsta" look with crotches situated mid thigh.

I see what you guys mean by the legs but I think I am going to pick up a few packs, after they are painted/ based they will blend right in.

I realy like the:

WW2G06 GERMAN INFANTRY MP44's – very clean, you can actually see it is a STG44!

And the faust also, I will let you guys know when I get them in hand :)

I've got the British infantry – the pic on Wargames: link is kind of sucky because I never intended to review them. I think they're beautiful.

I'll get more pictures posted.

I also have Germans for our upcoming 28mm German blowout, haven't taken any pictures yet, but will get some of the unpainted figs side by side.

Who do you all prefer to see them next to? I've got almost everyone in-house for the review.

Don.

That would be great – to see them with a comparison.

Probably Artizan and BAM would be the best to snap them alongside.

Although I must confess some of the BAM guys also suffer from "stumpy" legs.

Stumpy legs and watermelon heads – sounds like Dora the Explorer.

I'll get them up tonight – the painted British, the unpainted Germans (I have several packs, don't remember which), and Germans next to BAM/Artizan of similar poses.

Don.

You are a real trouper sir!

Don, looking forward to seeing the pics. Thanks for doing this! If you have the guy carrying the MG-42 in assault please post that.

Thanks again!

I'm a fan of a lot of the stuff that Renegade produces, but I was *very* disappointed with the WWII Germans that I bought last month.

I was hoping to plug some gaps in my army, but the Renegade minis are 35mm in height i.e. 25% taller than BAM or Artizan, so they just don't look right.

I suppose if they are that tall they may fit better with the 1:48 cheapies from Classic Armor (sic).

However, are the legs as stumpy as they look at their site?

Well I spaced this until after my bedtime.. Sorry.

So I got pictures of the Germans tonight (since they're the topic of conversation), and I'll get the British ones tomorrow.

Wow, I hadn't pulled these out and compared them yet, but yeah, they're Super28s.

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The two on the left are Artizan, the two in the middle are Renegade, the one on the right is BAM. I didn't have a BAM assault MG34 pose in the review box, honestly don't know if I have one at all.

Again, hope it helps. Sorry it's late and not measured, but the difference is obvious from the picture, so I figured we didn't need the measure line. Shout if you want one, and I can snap it tomorrow with the Brits.

Diocletian, I've got the VFM, Tamiya, and North Star 1:48s here for the review if you'd like that comparison (not Tamiya, then I'd fear losing parts before the review ;-)), though all three are thinner than these figures appear to be.

Regards,
Don.

Oh jeeze, now I've had them out and I want to do the review so we can use them ;-). In good time, I suppose.

;-)

Don.

Thanks Don, very useful although not good for their business.

Those Germans look like Ogres.

I know heads and hands are often overlarge in 25/28mm but these creatures look very odd.

There is something badly awry here. Giant heads and short limbs.

Remind me of Chiltern's cartoon style figures only much worse.

My mother always told me that if your hand could cover your face you were insane. If true – these guys are Ted Bundy materiel.

I reckon I will go for more Artizan and some of the TAG SS in parkas.

Shame as these could have been useful.

"My mother always told me that if your hand could cover your face you were insane."

Didn't you wonder why she smacked you in the face with your own hand every time you tested her theory? Oldest trick in the book! 8)=

They are quite "chunky" arent they….

Wow…I can tolerate a lot of the cartoony. But that's almost too much. I can see them only matching up with themselves and with 1/48. That's almost ridiculous with the size difference. Yes they are indeed very Chiltern like.

Thanks for posting the pics Don.

Keith

Naz: I was thinking the same thing, hahahaha

Actually, now I'm wondering how they'd match up with Stronghold – I poke fun at Stronghold for massive forearms and hands… Those are in the review box (though already painted, had 'em for a couple of years), I'll have to check it out.

THAT's why my Mom did that! ;-)

Don.

Don – I think you better watch out for the Renegade hit-squad as that comparison shot will lose them some sales.

On second thoughts the hired guns prob wont be able to fit their massive heads through normal doors so you will be fine.

I'll appease the Renegade hit squad by saying that except for some extra weight and the all-too-common "fist the size of head" syndrome, the British are as nice as I recalled.

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Don.

Err – why are his legs the same length as his arms?

These are as bad as Dixon. Yuk.

I received my Renegade Brit paras and the heights vary within the pack!!! The shortest figures are comparable height wise to my Crusader and 1st Corps figs. The taller figures are a full head taller than Crusader and 1st Corps and tower over Artizan.

At least the majority of the pack are leaning as they are running!!!

I was quite mystified when I compared a couple of Renegade figures with BAM, BTD, Artizan and Foundry WW2 in my collection.

Setting aside the slightly odd proportions and lack of detail on some equipment, I simply cannot understand why anyone would bring out a range incompatible with everything else on the market.

If they were unique and excellent then perhaps we could say they wee "trailblazing".

However, they are an oddly proportioned and weirdly equipped bunch of misfits.

This is a shame as I was pretty excited about a new WW2 range.

Considering I remember the days before 28mm WW2 I shouldn't be so greedy.

I don't actually have a British WWII Army, these were sent to me as the free part of "buy three get one free", so I don't have a wide selection to compare to – some BAM and that's it for Brits. The Brit paras I received are all relatively close in scaling though within the pack.

But the Germans aren't interchangeable with anyone else (as that picture shows, and it's worse against the 1:48s).

Though I suppose the Germans would go well with Stronghold. Those are supers too. I'll have to double-check.

Don.

Ever seen the WW1 stuff next to anyone elses.They are huge too,though the sculpts are nice.At least they do ok with the Great War minis.Also,not saying the Renegade in your pics aren't bad sculpts,but the 2 Artizan guys look like they are from the newer sculpts that are consideriably slimmer and more "perry like" than the older stuff.Other than looking like ogres,size wise the Renegade might not blend bad with the older Artizan.After saying all this I also passed on them.LOL

Perry like equalling slim>?

Have you seen their old work for Foundry? Look like munchkins to me!

That much vaunted EIR range is dreadful. Chunky little chaps with stumpy legs.

I guess the Perry boys have come on a good deal as the newer stuff certainly looks a little more realistic.

Well OK,how about slimmer and more "new style Perrylike"? I agree the old EIR range is crap,as are some of the other older Foundry ranges they did.I have a Renegade ECW army and am always catching greif for them being so big compared to the Perrys.My cav make the Perry cav look like hobbits on ponies.LOL