"Foundry vs Warlord Romans?" Topic

Seen a few topics about how the Warlord Romans go well with the "Perry" Foundry Romans, but I have no idea which ones on the Foundry site are the Perry's. Anyone help me out? Also, how do the two compare in terms of sculpt quality? I can probably afford to go primarily with the Foundry stuff if it's significantly better…

Thanks

AX

You might also try wargamesfactory.com/Home.htm. Releasing in a few days.

I have alot of the foundry Romans, and they are nice. They're the ones on the website that are marked 'Sculpted by Allen/Micheal Perry'.

I think they look ok next to Warlord foundry Romans, but Im not as fussey about these things as others.

TBH if I was starting a roman army from scratch I would go with Warlord, cost being a major factor. However If money was not a factor then I would with foundry.

Or I would consider these guys, I have heard very good things about them, including the fact that they go well with Foundry

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Excuse the spelling/grammer/general sentence structure, long day at work.

Oh and the wargamesfactory figs are a different era, so no use.

Thanks for the advice. I looked at multiple pages of Imperial Romans (I know the Caesarians are Copplestone sculpts) on the Foundry site including the close-ups and didn't see any "sculpted by Alan and Michael Perry."

The Foundry figures are expensive and available. The Wargames Factory figures are cheap and not available (a week to go, they say). Therefore, no one in the public arena can judge the quality of WF sculpts, never mind compare them – unless, I suppose, it is WF themselves making the comparison between their pre-launch figures and Foundry. No one else is in the position to do so.

I have no doubt that soon WF (or their proxies)will initiate a deluge of very favourable comparisons between their stuff and everybody else's work. Axabrax must have already come across an example of this.

axabrax, these:-

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are the non-Perry EIRs; all the other EIRs are Perrys.

Personally I'm in a minority of almost one in preferring the incomplete non-Perry range (I have a small Perry army as well, and just don't like them as much as my monumental Salehs).

There's also Imago Militis, which Allen speaks very highly of, and which I gather are a similar size to the Perrys:-

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Cheers, Simon

'Axabrax must have already come across an example of this.'

Beaumap if you are refering to my comments then you should understand that all my comments are refering to Warlord's figs, except where I state that the WF figs would be a different era.

If you look back over alot of my previous comments with regard to WF you will see I have been very critical of their appalling business.

Sorry my first link didn't work;- trying again

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Simon

Yep, packs 1/1 through 1/8 of "The Roman Empire" range were scuplted by Steve Saleh, are one-piece castings with shields cast on, and seem to me to be lacking in the fine detail present in the rest of the range--sculpted by the Perrys.

My first reaction on seeing them at a Partizan years ago were that Foundry must have come up with the idea of an "entry level" range for non-modellers and non-painters. (That's no reflection on Simon and others who like tem!)

Imago Militis are sculpted by Richard Ansell, who is responsible for the fine work in a number of companies' ranges these days.

Plastics are the devil's work.

Allen

Hi Allen,

I knew you'd come out if I mentioned Imago Militis. ;-)

As it happens I am just, as we write, basing a unit of 24 EIR Archers (mix of Foundry Salehs and BTD), and they are the absolute DBs. And the nice man at Crusader has brought out a handy Centurion mini that means I finally have some suitable command figures for my unruly Auxilia… so I shall paint them, at last, in the Spring. It's all happening in big 28mm Romans!

Simon

The BTD "Eatern" archers are excellent.

Allen

Eatsern?

Eapxkyt?

Bloop.

Yes, I like the BTD Auxiliary miniatures, too. What a shame about the legionaries!

Simon

I thought the Wargames Factory figures were "Caesarian Romans"? If so, they're not the same models as the Foundry ones in lorica segmentata. It's Warlord models that make those in plastic.

Allen wrote:
The BTD "Eatern" archers are excellent.
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Especially the marzipan ones.

>>>Especially the marzipan ones.<<<

Now I'm thoroughly confused…

Quality wise, the Warlord plastic ones are as good as the Perry Foundry. They are pretty much interchageable. The Warlord Roman metals are very good, in fact I'd say they may even beat the Perry sculpts (but then they are fairly old sculpts now).

The Saleh Foundry ones are not to my taste, his latest work for Artizan are much better sized.

Guy

They may be old, but all my Perry legionaries have ears.

I fail to see how they can be considered interchangeable. Even with my old eyes, I can tell the difference:

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Men may be different heights, or different weights, but there's simply not that much variation in head size--and especially not helmet size.

"Hey, Ted, can I take off? I got a tiny head."

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Allen

I think we'll have to agree to disagree Allen.

I tried a little experiment mixing in Warlord and Foundry at a demo game I ran recently at a large event. People would inevitably ask how compatible the Warlord models were with other manufacturers. So I'd ask them to spot the non Warlord model in a unit. Only one person did and that was a Celt (a Copplestone Foundry with a hand painted shield, which is why it stood out). This was with Warlord Celts and Roman units.

While you can say what you like about the rank and file plastics (and you are entitled to your opinion), I doubt even you can deny the Roman metals are superb.

Guy

Oh here's an old link which might shed some more light on Foundry and Warlord compatibility:

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Guy

"The Saleh Foundry ones are not to my taste, his latest work for Artizan are much better sized."

Are they not a similar size to his World of the Greeks range? I have a couple of packs and they look quite large enough for my (inflated) tastes.

Simon

They are the same size as the World of the Greeks range. 28mm foot to eye or 30mm (ish) tall.

Guy

That is the Artizan Greeks to the Foundry Greeks, not the Romans…

Having got my toys out, I estimate Saleh's Romans tower above his earlier Greeks by a full millimetre… his more recent Artizan Spartans are slightly larger- exactly the same height as the Romans.

I think his Romans feel bigger, by association with the Perry Romans they often tower over.

Simon

It's very interesting to look back over older posts!

I just bought a lot of Foundry EIR Perry figures and did a search on google and these older threads came up.

Wow! An 11 year old thread necromancy!

There are actually a lot of really good threads that pop up from 2008 when a person uses the search feature.

Perhaps that was a peak year for the forum?