Old Contemptibles | 24 Sep 2008 12:56 a.m. PST |
There was a Tory unit comprised of New York Volunteers serving in the Southern Campaign. It fought at Hobkirk's Hill among others. I think they wore red coats with buff facings. Does anyone have any information about this unit's flags? |
John the OFM | 24 Sep 2008 3:25 a.m. PST |
In almost every case with Loyalists serving in regular units, I would follow th 1768 warrant regarding Colours. They strived to be "more British than the British". None of this Patriot nonsense of patriotic slogans or rampant beavers. If you know they had buff facings, go with the usul drill for a buff facing regiment, assuming they even carried their Colours in the field. |
John the OFM | 24 Sep 2008 3:32 a.m. PST |
Better make that "serving AS regular units" to avoid confusion. |
Rudysnelson | 24 Sep 2008 6:21 a.m. PST |
Though Buff facings were recorded during that campaign. In 1783, A hessian officer recorded in his journal that the unit had blue facings. As John said unit flags were based on British regulations. |
Supercilius Maximus | 24 Sep 2008 8:41 a.m. PST |
I think there was a rule about units being a certain size before they could be classed as a regiment and qualify for colours. Many of them never reached that size, or anything close to it. A bit like "raising for rank". |
Old Contemptibles | 24 Sep 2008 3:44 p.m. PST |
If there wasn't any evidence to the contrary I was just going to use a Union Jack and a King's Color of buff with no emblems on them. I did read about the 1783 description of blue facings. In fact I think there is a Troiani painting of a 1783 officer of that regiment with blue facings. But I will probably go with buff. Thanks! David |
95thRegt | 24 Sep 2008 5:27 p.m. PST |
I'm doing this regiment as well, but in thier 1777 uniform as they were at Ft. Montgomery/Clinton.A film at the visitor center has a reenactor portraying the commander of the regiment,in green faced buff.The old Osprey on the Provincials shows a drummer in the reversed colors of buff faced red in 1782. Bob |
historygamer | 25 Sep 2008 10:29 a.m. PST |
Be careful of film portrays. They would not make a special uniform up for one scene – trust me. I have portrayed all sorts of soldiers/units in whatever I had, in films, videos, first person, etc. So the guy in the film may mean no more than a warm body in a uniform from the period. I appeared in an entire series run on the H Channel (unbeknownst to me) in my F&I British officers uniform for a show on the F&I, Rev War, and 1812 – so much for historical accuracy. |
95thRegt | 25 Sep 2008 2:24 p.m. PST |
Be careful of film portrays. They would not make a special uniform up for one scene – trust me. I have portrayed all sorts of soldiers/units in whatever I had, in films, videos, first person, etc. So the guy in the film may mean no more than a warm body in a uniform from the period. >> Oh,I totally understand that! Believe me! But they were supposed to be in green faced buff at that time. BTW,most of the other reenactors looked like crap in that film! More bad,fat,reenactors in ill-fitting uniforms! Bob |
ACW Gamer | 09 Mar 2015 8:39 p.m. PST |
I am wanting to model this unit for "Huck's Defeat;" any new information on their uniforms? |