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ODGW CinC31 May 2008 3:40 p.m. PST

Old Dominion GameWorks is currently in final development of the first in our GQIII "Decisions at Sea" series, "The Solomons Campaign." This game gives both players significant decisions to make in a unique decision tree format as they generate and then fight the air, sea, and even sub actions of Operation Watchtower. Look for updates on its progress at odgw.com.

CPT Jake31 May 2008 3:54 p.m. PST

Sounds very cool.

ODGW CinC17 Jun 2008 1:41 p.m. PST

We have now sent the game off to the printers to print the galley proofs. Once those are vetted, we should be able to go into production.

CinC

Soulmage17 Jun 2008 7:12 p.m. PST

How much will you be charging?

ODGW CinC18 Jun 2008 7:33 p.m. PST

List price for the game is $23.95.

ODGW CinC12 Jul 2008 11:12 a.m. PST

The Solomons Campaign is now available at odgw.com. Using a unique decision tree format, it avoids the pitfall of endless searching and plotting that tends to bog down other campaigns. This game covers the six months of Operation Watchtower, and is adaptable to any tactical naval rules. We hope you'll stop by to have a look!

CinC

hindsTMP16 Jul 2008 6:41 p.m. PST

As usual, I find the ODGW website sign-in procedure to be broken. Guys, I would really like to purchase your products, but you need to fix your sign-in software first.

1) The *&#!! site won't accept my password.
2) So I access the "lost your password" link
3) Fill in my user name, email address, and your "security code".
4) Hit "enter" and get "invalid security code"
5) And, yes, I entered the security code correctly.
6) I am NOT using IE7, but instead my old faithful IE6. I have NEVER had these types of difficulties in any of the other password-protected sites I have been accessing over the last 10 or so years; just yours.

An EXTREMELY frustrated ex-customer.

hindsTMP16 Jul 2008 6:48 p.m. PST

Oh, BTW, attempting to enter the above into the "Contact Us" section of the website yields "You are not authorized to use this resource".

If this is some sort of response to my Norton Internet Security settings, it is extremely poorly implemented.

SeattleGamer Supporting Member of TMP17 Jul 2008 12:40 p.m. PST

You are not alone hinds.

I just tried to email ODGW and let them know about your issues. Received the same error message. Tried to log in (and I KNOW what my old account was). I was ignored, so assume my account has been deleted.

So I decided to register again. Got the same error message, that I was not authorized to view the page.

So can't register, can't contact them to let them know there is a problem either. Pity.

Steve

ODGW CinC17 Jul 2008 12:42 p.m. PST

hindsTMP,

For both Internet Explorer versions, the recommended changes should be made. We are sorry that you have had such a difficult time. Please contact me off list at cinc@odgw.com and I can help you access the site and make your order, as so many others have.

CinC

Soulmage18 Jul 2008 8:29 p.m. PST

I have had a couple experiences with sites that required you to create an account to buy their products which resulted in me not buying that company's products.

IMO requiring an account is a mistake. You should make it as easy as possible for people to buy your stuff. Otherwise you loose sales.

hindsTMP19 Jul 2008 8:55 a.m. PST

OK, CinC was kind enough to email me offline with their site instructions.

However, I may still hold off from implementing his suggestions, and instead try to buy their products at my local hobby shop. His instructions ask me to add 4 ODGW-related URLs to my "trusted" sites list, and disable server verification for all trusted sites. I need to research this more, but I believe this means that a non-ODGW entity could claim to be one of their URLs, and would not have to prove this using the normal PKI mechanisms during the SSL handshake (send x.509 server certificate signed by trusted CA). The net effect would seem to mean that any entity claiming to be one of their URLs could gain full "trusted domain" access to my PC.

hindsTMP19 Jul 2008 9:16 a.m. PST

OK, I have been experimenting. At least with IE6, I can still log in merely by adding the 4 ODGW URLs to the "trusted" sites list (https://www.odgw.net odgw.net odgw.com odgw.com), and I do NOT have to disable server verification. (In other words, I am ignoring one of CinC's instructions).

Charlie 1220 Jul 2008 2:42 a.m. PST

Soulmage,

In the case of the ODGW products (like GQ3 and FAI), purchasing the rules (in whatever format) gives you access to the downloadable pdf version of the rules (handy for searching through the rules using Adobe's search function) plus a large amount of related downloadable freebies. If they don't have some way of ID'ing you as a legitimate purchaser, then they wouldn't be able to allow such access.

Besides, if you buy from ANY site, you still have to provide your name, address and payment info, which is de facto registeration.

Charlie 1220 Jul 2008 2:51 a.m. PST

Hinds,

Your solution is what I did, too, and it works fine. I got a little hinky about disabling the server verification (I've worked too long in the trade (network tech/admin) to not be a bit paranoid about these things!).

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