Jonnathon | 24 May 2008 9:30 p.m. PST |
I'm new to this scale and want to purchase some 6mm or 10mm metal ACW figures on the recommendation of a friend. Who makes them and which would be considered "good quality" each scale? Who has the most complete range each scale. |
Ric Raynor | 24 May 2008 9:52 p.m. PST |
I don't know much about 10mm, but for 6mm I would go with Baccus. The figures are very finely detailed and are priced reasonably. |
Scott MacPhee | 24 May 2008 11:19 p.m. PST |
Old Glory's 10mm ACW line is outstanding. The soldiers are in 1" strips with five infantrymen pressing shoulder to shoulder. It captures the look of the period in a way no other figures do. |
Ooh Rah | 24 May 2008 11:50 p.m. PST |
Here's a few 10mm sites for you to look at: The Baggage Train (UK) sells a line of figures called Ten High link GFI-MiniFigs link or musketminiatures.com GHQ link HistoriFigs (N-scale, not 10mm) link Irregular UK site irregularminiatures.co.uk and US site link Langton Miniatures (UK) link Langton are available in the US from Brookhurst Hobbies link Perrin Miniatures link or link Magister Militum link (Perrin and Magister Militum are the same figures but Perrin is sold in the US, Magister Militum in UK.) Old Glory link Pendraken Miniatures link Pithead Miniatures nowear.se/pithead Summary: GHQ are the most detailed. Ten High (from The Baggage Train) and Langton are similar in size to GHQ and less detailed but look good painted. GFI-Minifigs and Perrin are slightly larger and "chunkier" figures. All look very good painted. These are the only 10mm figures I have so I can't comment about the others. Here's a few 6mm sites: Adler UK site link and US site historicalminiatures.com Baccus link Irregular Miniatures (see link above) I have two Army packs of Baccus 6mm. They are nice but just too small for me. If your highest priorities are good quality and most complete range, you might want to consider 15mm. There seems to be much more variety and the availability of flags seems to be much better in 15mm than 10mm. Here's a great site that reviews 15mm: link |
Agesilaus | 24 May 2008 11:58 p.m. PST |
In 10mm Perrin and GFI are very nice figures. GFI is upgrading and expanding their range. GHQ are technically very accurate and have a wide selection of artillery. I prefer this scale, and I use all three. Langton, Pendraken and Musket Miniatures also have 10mm and I'm sure there are others. |
Crust Punk | 25 May 2008 3:08 a.m. PST |
Adler and Baccus make 6mm I know Baccus well from their Nap line. Yet I can't testify to their ACW, however if the quality and detail holds up than it will be nothing short of astounding. Adler are beautiful when painted though I have read they tend to be frail
.and again, I can't speak from personal experience but I have heard it very often. As for scales, go with whatever you are happiest painting or whatever your most likely opponent is likely to muster. On a side note, my ACW is 15mm but I do plan on doing it all over again in 6mm to have the all coveted mass effect. |
McKinstry | 25 May 2008 8:35 a.m. PST |
I'm a 6-10mm person having sold off my 15mm ACW. I'd first have to ask what rules you are considering. For big bases, mass look such as Volley & Bayonet in a period in which one army is an absolute sea of uniformity and the other at best when not uniform, a collection of eartn tone variations, I'd go 6mm simply because that block of blue doesn't have to be individually fantastic. I prefer Baccus infantry with Adler cavalry. Some of the 10's such as GHQ and Pendraken are really good, good 15mm good, and overall the line is extensively covered in 10mm. For more tactical rules where you want more figures than in 15 but don't need mass blocks such as say Johnny Reb or Fire & Fury, 10mm should do everything you'd get in 15 but with a denser figure count. |
CATenWolde | 25 May 2008 10:09 a.m. PST |
One thing to keep in mind when balancing what the "mass effect" mean to you is that most 10mm figures fit on the *same* frontage as 6mm figures (5mm per figure). However, it's marginally easier to fit multiple ranks with 6mm (maybe 3:2 vs. 10mm). Therefore, you are really comparing the physical mass of the 10mm figures to the depth of the 6mm figures. |
ebsc82 | 25 May 2008 1:54 p.m. PST |
Here is some pics of my 6mm Adler figs. link |
Rudysnelson | 25 May 2008 7:24 p.m. PST |
I would select 10mm AIM from GFI. |
Baccus 6mm | 26 May 2008 2:06 a.m. PST |
Just for once I'll let someone else, and more importantly, their pictures do the talking for me. link |
Lentulus | 26 May 2008 8:39 a.m. PST |
Take a good look at the new Pendraken offerings. The pose variety is really excellent. |
BobTYW | 26 May 2008 12:56 p.m. PST |
Both the ADLER and BACCUS 6mm figs are amazing sculpts (going by the pictures on this site).Are ADLER and BACCUS aprox the same size. Would they mix in the same units or should they be kept separate. |
ebsc82 | 26 May 2008 1:30 p.m. PST |
Adler are about 7mm high compared to baccus which is 6mm. However there is no reason to have mixed units but keep them separated ie; base 1 regt for baccus if you want justa marching pose and lets say a regt firing advancing then use adler. |
ACWBill | 27 May 2008 4:29 a.m. PST |
10mm GHQ and Starfort are beautiful figures. I have thousands and just used them to run Hood's 1864 Tennessee Campaign this past weekend. Three days, three battles all in 10mm. |
Jonnathon | 28 May 2008 7:53 p.m. PST |
Thanks for the information. It was really helpful. Which company has a good selection of buildings, fences, stonewalls, forts etc. Can be 6 or 10mm. |
Ooh Rah | 29 May 2008 4:27 a.m. PST |
TimeCast has 6mm and 10mm accessories link The US distributor is Battlefield Terrain Concepts battlefieldterrain.com Also, see the previous links for Musket Miniatures and Langton Miniatures (aka Starfort). |
Darkoath | 08 Jun 2008 9:25 p.m. PST |
For 10mm ACW, are Perrin miniatures and Magister Militum miniatures the same figures? Also are GFI-Minifigs and Musket Miniatures the same figures? |
Ooh Rah | 10 Jun 2008 9:40 a.m. PST |
Darkoath -- yes on both questions. Perrin and Magister Militum are the same miniatures, but are packaged differently. Perrins are sold in the US and Magister Militum are sold in UK. Also, the 10mm ACW figures sold by Musket Miniatures are GFI-MiniFigs. |
Crusader 55 | 31 Jan 2014 12:07 a.m. PST |
My favorite, "new" 10mm figure comes from Cracker Line (a US company in FL). See here: link Bob's (aka The Owner) ACW line will continue to expand with a host of cavalry and expanded infantry (hopefully in late spring 2014). |
bgbboogie | 08 Feb 2014 9:48 a.m. PST |
I love 10mm but do miss my 6mm army I sold on
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10mm Wargaming | 08 Feb 2014 5:02 p.m. PST |
I would go with pendraken excellent figures and very good customer service. Take care Andy |
EJNashIII | 09 Feb 2014 12:34 p.m. PST |
I mainly have Perrin for my 10mm. |
MadDrMark | 10 Feb 2014 3:28 a.m. PST |
I've been very happy with my Perrin and Pendraken 10mm. They look good from a few feet away and have enough detail to impress at a close inspection. The scale has the added benefit of being compatible with N scale railroad terrain, which is cheap and easily found. |
ACW Gamer | 10 Feb 2014 2:58 p.m. PST |
Do 10mm gamers use N scale track for their ACW games, or is it a bit too big? |
Last Hussar | 10 Feb 2014 3:16 p.m. PST |
I do! I base my Pendraken on 30mm square bases- I can fit a frontage of 4 in that, and usually have a total of 7-8 on each base- I put them across the middle so there is room for a firing musket. |
EJNashIII | 10 Feb 2014 9:45 p.m. PST |
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ACWBill | 11 Feb 2014 12:43 p.m. PST |
I have always used N Gauge track and it looks great with my 10mm stuff. Take a look at the battlefield gallery from my commercial site. crackerlineminis.com
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TKindred | 12 Feb 2014 5:53 a.m. PST |
If you are planning on using railroads on the board, then I agree that N gauge is your best bet. The big problem is that the rails were somewhat different then, and tie spacing was much wider, with wider ties, then it was post-bellum. Look for "Code 55" as that's the smallest rail size, and closest to most of what was available. Also, consider Flex-track. regardless of the maker, it comes in 36" lengths. You can bend it as required (though it'll spring back if not tacked or glued in place. Micro-Engineering makes a pre-weathered track which is VERY nice. It costs some more, but you aren't buying a lot, I'd suspect. Alternately, spray the entire track, ties and all, with a rust-colored primer. After it dries, run a stain/wash of black paint down the ties, inside and out of the track. You can dry brush some lighter wood or grey if you like, but it's really not needed. Lastly, run a piece of sandpaper or emory cloth over the tops of the rail to expose the bright steel tops. Real track is untreated, and begins to rust even before it's laid down. The constant friction on top from motive power and rolling stock keeps the rail tops bright. V/R |
TKindred | 12 Feb 2014 6:08 a.m. PST |
There is also a new line of 10mm ACW miniatures from Kaillistra. I haven't seen them in person, but the images look very nice. kallistra.co.uk/?page=16 |
Caesar | 12 Feb 2014 8:20 a.m. PST |
Keep in mind that Kallistra are said to be big for 10mm and won't mix with other manufacturers. |
Caesar | 12 Feb 2014 8:22 a.m. PST |
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TKindred | 12 Feb 2014 2:24 p.m. PST |
Caesar, The key is to NOT mix minis, but simply make units using figures from one manufacturer. At this scale, Kallistra and GHQ will be fine together on the table, since both with be in separate units, rather than mixed together. I have no problem with that, and it's doubtful most people would notice unless it's pointed out to them. |
ACW Gamer | 12 Feb 2014 8:33 p.m. PST |
Thanks, everyone for the rail advice! |
ACW Gamer | 12 Feb 2014 8:34 p.m. PST |
Ahh, Nashill, YOU'RE the military railroad guy! |
Regulars | 14 Feb 2014 7:04 a.m. PST |
GHQ/Starfort are both 1/160 scale which is US/European N Scale. UK N Scale is 1/144 which most UK 10mm figures work out to be. I use both on my ACW Model Railroad. For more information see the ACW group. link Best Joel |
Trajanus | 15 Feb 2014 3:28 a.m. PST |
Kallistra are brilliant. If I was starting out in ACW I would go for them exclusively. They are a fraction larger than 10mm but they make no bones about it and their detail and quality is well worth making them your sole supplier. They now do pretty much everything you would want anyway! Seeing them 'in the flesh' you can't fail to be impressed. If for some reason you wanted to stick with actual 10mm, I'd go with Pendraken but Kallistra are the better figures. |
Son of Apophis | 02 Feb 2015 11:13 a.m. PST |
Anyone know who makes miniatures that will fit with my 10mm ACW Perrin figures line as I can't seem to locate anyone that sells Perrin 10mm anymore. |
EJNashIII | 02 Feb 2015 7:10 p.m. PST |
Perrin: The Last Square link Noble link You also might contact Jim Brokaw. He had a line, Old North State, they were good matches with Perrin. He might still sell them by request. TMP link |
CATenWolde | 03 Feb 2015 12:42 a.m. PST |
The old Perrin line is now sold by Magister Militum in the UK: link Perrin figures will mix pretty well with GHQ, and the old 10 High line, as well as the new Cracker Line figures. The will mix somewhat well with the new Pendraken line as well. Cheers, Christopher |
Master Caster | 25 Feb 2015 8:29 a.m. PST |
Is the Last Square still open? |
138SquadronRAF | 25 Feb 2015 3:02 p.m. PST |
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