Uesugi Kenshin  | 13 May 2008 4:58 p.m. PST |
Ok, I know this is done on other pages but I wanted to do one on TMP. If it has been done recently and I missed it I apologize. What 1/72 plastic sets (a single troop type or whole army line) would you like to see companies make. And for god sakes dont say another Roman or Napoleonic set! Me: 1) Arab Empire/ Conquest Armies 2) Medieval Sub-Saharan/ Sudanese 3) Mamluk Army, 1250-1300 4) Ilkhanid or Golden Horde Mongols 5) First Crusade Army 6) 3 Kingdoms Korean 200AD-900AD 7) Tang Chinese 600-900AD 8) Late Medieval Poles 9) Late Medieval Teutonic 10) Rus and Slav Armies |
| Aloysius the Gaul | 13 May 2008 5:58 p.m. PST |
Byzantines – any Byzantines at all
.. there are already some lines for almost all the ones you list (or close relatives) – but there isn't a singel Byzantine set of any description anywhere (AFAIK)!! |
IGWARG1  | 13 May 2008 7:21 p.m. PST |
1) Arab Empire/Conquest – Italiery, Zvezda, Strelets – arabs/muslims. 2) Sudanese – Waterloo 1815 for dervishes and Strelets mounted Arabs for armored lancers. Ceasar biblical arabs can also work with some simple conversions and a lot of them can be converted to bowmen. Eshi Muslim warriors without firearms. 3)Mamluks – Italiery, Zvezda, Strelets – Muslims/Arabs. Zvezda, Strelets medieval Russians – cavalry. May be even some Mongols from Italiery and Zvezda, not sure though, have to look. 4)Ilkanid/Golden Horde – Zvezda and Italiery Mongols. Arab infantry from Strelets and Italiery for various Ilkanid allies. Russians as allies for Golden Horde. 5)First Crusade – Revell Normans and Strelets Normans. Revell Saxons would also work, especially bowmen. Possibly some Vikings from other manufacturers. 6) and 7) don't know much about that region, but look at some figures from Red Box and Ceasar. 8) and 9) Any company that makes 100YW figures like Revell and Zvezda. Russians can be used for Lituanian part of Poland or allies for later Teutonics. Some company came out with Burgundians that can be used for even later period, second half of 15th century. 10) For early Rus and Slav armies check out Germanic barbarians offered by various companies like HaT and others. Not all the troop types can be found for all the armies, a bit of research and imagination will always help. No Byzantines as yet. link |
IGWARG1  | 13 May 2008 7:26 p.m. PST |
Vikings and Saxons can also work for early Rus. |
| Shark Six Three Zero | 13 May 2008 7:30 p.m. PST |
Seven years war Russians, Prussians and French South African, Cuban, Rhodesian modern wars Modern French Foreign Legion |
| Who asked this joker | 13 May 2008 8:06 p.m. PST |
Caesar Miniatures has the Byzantine 1453 army on the way. No details according to Plastic Soldier Review. I'd like to see some more Huns. There is one set out there and that is the extent of it. Alans as well. Though Sasanids might do in a pinch for these guys. |
Uesugi Kenshin  | 13 May 2008 9:12 p.m. PST |
"IGWARG1", you missed the WHOLE point of the list Buddy! I know I can create just about all of those armies from current sets
but i dont want to! I want those exact sets. Now dont go telling me that a mongol is a mongol is a mongol, because if they can make a box for a Napoleonic Dutch Fusilier when Napoleonics players could have used any other countries Fusilier, then I want my Golden Horde, Ilkhanids, and heck I want some Timurids too
.w/ Elephants (and dont tell me to use Hat Sassanid Elephants!). I kid, to a certain degree. I'm not that much of a purist that I believe figures can't be used for multiple armies. Right now I game only in 15mm. I do this largely because I dont have to "convert" any sets to be the armies I like. If they made any of the armies I liked w/ all troop options (and historically corect) I might start using plastics. Of note IGWARG1, I was (and still am) close to using the Strelets Arabs for Arab Conquest Armies. The main problem is that the Arabs in that specific army (infantry) should all be unarmored. And every single figure in Strelets infantry box has armor! Thats why I would like to see these specific sets done. If I have to do conversions I'll just stick to my metals. Any way, keep rolling with the wish list. I would like Byzantines too
so my Arab Empire figs can kick their Greek asses. Acarhj, I love both Huns AND Alan so lets ask the companies for both (you think I'm not gonna send Hat this link when its got more suggestions?!). We might as well ask for some Early Medieval Indians too for the Huns to fight. We should probably have some Gaznavids to fight the Indians to then
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| Aloysius the Gaul | 13 May 2008 9:18 p.m. PST |
Roman asses thanks – and only in the baggage camp and for putting infantry on to preserve their tender toes!! ;) |
Uesugi Kenshin  | 13 May 2008 9:22 p.m. PST |
PS. Eureka miniatures has a "P300" list for 15mm minis. What this is, if you ddont know, is you can suggest any single miniature or army be made by Eureka. You give them all the specifics including dress, stance, weapons, attitude, etc
and send them any historical reference material. They then put the figure idea on their "300" list. Once the figure or army gets 600 pre-orders then the figure/army gets put into production. I think its a fabulous idea to give the people what they want, not what you THINK they want. I put a 3 Kingdoms Korean Army up there 2 weeks ago and it all ready has over 200 purchases. Eureka told me that their sculptor is intereted enough in the Army that he might not wait for 600 orders and may begin production sooner. If you all are regular customers of 1/72 plastics companies then you should email them and request that they start this type of pre-production list. Just a thought. Here is Eurekas. Koreans on page 2: eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=87_194_197&sort=3a |
| Hrothgar Returns | 13 May 2008 9:34 p.m. PST |
Okay for plastic 1/72: a better set of Picts/pre-fuedal Scots-the two sets in existence are mediocre to crap. Irish warriors for the 5th-11th century Huns/steppe nomads minus stirrups 5th-6th Century Chinese/Nomad armies-Northern Wei, etc. Nice Asiatic cataphracts! (these will never be made obviously) steppe nomads with stirrups-generic enough to cover several Turkic groups Byzantines either early or 'Nikephorian' Carolingian Franks-historically accurate figs-not fantasy figures |
Uesugi Kenshin  | 13 May 2008 10:55 p.m. PST |
Hrothgar, "Picts/pre-fuedal Scots", 100% with you. I would love to see every Dark Age Britain Army (re)done. I would buy Pre-feudal Scots in a second (MacBeth!). "steppe nomads with stirrups-generic enough to cover several Turkic groups, 5th-6th Century Chinese/Nomad armies-Northern Wei, etc. Nice Asiatic cataphracts! (these will never be made obviously)" Why not. All we need do is request them
.continuously! This is the perfect forum to drum up support for you reauests! I would love to see seperate boxes for Cumans (aka Kipchaks, Chernie Koblukie,), Huns, Ghuzz, Avars, Alans, Pechenegs, Khara Khitans, and Jurchen (Manchurian), even Tibetans. The foreign makers like Strelets are much more likely to make these (due to their familiarity with them due to historical proximity). Good suggestions. |
| fowler | 13 May 2008 11:31 p.m. PST |
All we need do is request them
.continuously! And send them a large cheque with a promise to buy them se  |
| royaleddy | 14 May 2008 1:51 a.m. PST |
1)hat to redo their appalling ww1 german colonial set. 2)hat to bring out their 20thC Indians. 3)lithuanian cavalry to go with all the teutonic and russian medievals. 4)a decent 7yw line. i'm sure it would sell well. |
Uesugi Kenshin  | 14 May 2008 1:52 a.m. PST |
"lithuanian cavalry" very nice, and some infantry too would be good, to go w/ my Late Poles and Late Teutonics! |
| Edwulf | 14 May 2008 2:22 a.m. PST |
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| Griefbringer | 14 May 2008 2:26 a.m. PST |
Revell re-releasing their TYW cavalry set
Griefbringer |
| Guy Barlow | 14 May 2008 4:20 a.m. PST |
To echo Griefbringer, Revell re-releasing their SYW Prussian hussar set. Guy |
| OldGrenadier at work | 14 May 2008 4:24 a.m. PST |
4KingShaw has the right idea with a SYW line, preferably with limited poses instead of 20 guys doing different things. Heck, I'd take just about anything in the black powder era with only a very few poses. You have to weed out so many figures if you're not skirmish gaming. |
| moonhippie3 | 14 May 2008 5:03 a.m. PST |
What Urg said. A box of marching, advancing, OR fireing with slightly different poses. along with a command box. A box of medievel pikeman, some in Heavy, some medium armor. I will never buy plastics as they are packaged these days. The new 28mm ones are interesting, but I have a very limited space, and that scale is out of the question for me. Although, I won't say never. I do have an idea for a medieval boardgame that would require about 60 figures per side, but in metal, that would cost about 300 usd. plus a hex mat, let alone terrain features that must fit in those hexes, such as a keep. |
| royaleddy | 14 May 2008 5:27 a.m. PST |
forgot to add Medieval Xbows |
| Old Slow Trot | 14 May 2008 6:47 a.m. PST |
A few more WW1 airplanes would be OK. |
Uesugi Kenshin  | 14 May 2008 7:24 a.m. PST |
"To echo Griefbringer, Revell re-releasing their SYW Prussian hussar set. Guy" That set is probably the single best plastic miniatures set I have ever seen. They certainly got that one right. |
| bilsonius | 14 May 2008 9:17 a.m. PST |
It would be nice if Zvezda were to re-release certain of their "1/72" sets in 1/72 scale! |
| Marc the plastics fan | 14 May 2008 9:27 a.m. PST |
Sorry, but I have to ask for more Naps (duck!) The new HaT French leger look really exciting, but we are still missing a proper figure for Middle Guard in full dress. Nice if Zvezda released a set of French infantry to match their light infantry set. And some Pavlovs to go with tehir russian infantry. Still missing artillery and equipment for 1805-7 Prussians and Russians Still missing Austrians Oh, and if too many Naps, still waiting for the HaT El Cid range to be released. |
| Marc the plastics fan | 14 May 2008 9:27 a.m. PST |
Oh, and for al those Revell hussar guys, have you checked out the HaT Prussian Hussars in Mirliton – they look nice and will probably cover the period reasonably well |
Uesugi Kenshin  | 14 May 2008 2:00 p.m. PST |
"Oh, and if too many Naps, still waiting for the HaT El Cid range to be released" That last sentence saved you. I too am eagerly looking forward to getting my Arab Berbers. Hat told me that the first 2 sets in the El Cid line will be avail by the end of this year. Those Berbers/ Moors will go a long way in helping my "Arab Empire/ Conquest Armies" become a reality. For any other Arab Army fans, Italieri has a mysterious "Arab Warriors Set 6126" coming out some time this year. I'm hoping this will be early period Arabs. |
| Nick Nascati | 14 May 2008 4:52 p.m. PST |
How about sets of figures that don't look like skirmishers!! |
| (religious bigot) | 14 May 2008 9:54 p.m. PST |
British cavalry in tarletons and bicornes, Prussian cuirassiers in litewkas, so things are looking good for me. |
Uesugi Kenshin  | 15 May 2008 5:34 a.m. PST |
How about Medieval Indian 500-1500AD-ish. Can fight Huns to Timurids! |