| Old Smokie | 13 May 2008 11:04 a.m. PST |
Anyone doing Fire & Fury in 10mm, if so how are you doing it ? I played a game at our local club a few weeks ago and really enjoyed it (15mm). I used to play it years ago when the rules first came out, but it gradually wained. I now want to get back into ACW and thought of doing Fire & Fury again but in 10mm using the 15mm scale basing and 150 scale as in the rule book. I have a lot of American type scenery and buildings I use for the AWI I have in 10mm. any help tips appreciated |
| ACWBill | 13 May 2008 11:32 a.m. PST |
I haved been doing so for since 1993 or so. I use the standard battlefield, scale and base sizes as designed for the 15mm figs. The major difference is the esthetic. With 10mm, everything just looks less crowded and more realistic. Check out the front page of our clubs gaming site to see what I mean. This is a shot of my 10mm stuff. soflgamers.org Bill Moreno |
| Austin Rob | 13 May 2008 11:34 a.m. PST |
Just use the same base size as for 15mm and put more figures on the base. Nice thing is that you can do them in two ranks, so it looks really good on the bases. Rob |
| CATenWolde | 13 May 2008 12:07 p.m. PST |
I just started a 10mm ACW project with a friend, and we're trying to figure out basing while we paint
;) I think the best options are either "linear" – 3 or 4 figures in a single rank, or "staggered" – having an odd number of figures with fewer in the back rank (2 and 1, 3 and 2, etc.). I tried squared up 2x2 and 3x2, but the serried ranks looked too Napoleonic to me, especially in double line. At 5mm frontage per figure, you can get the same or better mass as 15mm and still save on ground scale, which is excellent. Hmmm
(sound of photos taken and files posted) Let's see if this works. The following are on a 10mm grid. koti.welho.com/ctenwold/t1 3x1 line.JPG koti.welho.com/ctenwold/t2 3x1 double line.JPG koti.welho.com/ctenwold/t3 2x1 line.JPG koti.welho.com/ctenwold/t4 2x1 double line.JPG koti.welho.com/ctenwold/t5 2x2 line.JPG koti.welho.com/ctenwold/t6 2x2 double line.JPG |
| CATenWolde | 13 May 2008 12:08 p.m. PST |
Okay – the links are broken above, you'll have to copy & paste them. |
| Scott MacPhee | 13 May 2008 1:11 p.m. PST |
If I was starting over, I would use Old Glory 10mm figures for my Fire and Fury armies. The strips have a frontage of 1", which makes them perfect. I have even painted up about twenty stands, placing the figures in two ranks. They look incredible. Ten closely packed infantry in ordered ranks look much better than three guys loosely spread across the stand. |
| Skipper | 13 May 2008 1:17 p.m. PST |
While not using 10mm, I am using 6mm on normal bases to give a much better battle look. my first 2 corps were 20mm, but I like the look of 5mm so much better when in mass. |
| Old Smokie | 13 May 2008 5:25 p.m. PST |
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| Old Smokie | 13 May 2008 5:28 p.m. PST |
CATenWolde the links do not work, I have tried to copy and paste but all I get is "404 not found" |
Shagnasty  | 13 May 2008 5:48 p.m. PST |
I wouldn't do anything in 6 or 10mm. |
Viper911  | 13 May 2008 7:22 p.m. PST |
Hi I base my 10mm acw 5 figs to a stand on a 1" x 3/4" base and when play on my 4x6 table I can get 120 stands for each side on the table easy and I have also reduced the movement and firing rates down by 1/3, I am working on a set of regimental rules and have played 4 games so far. |
| Mousy Tung | 13 May 2008 7:27 p.m. PST |
Chris, looks like you went with GHQ, which are smaller "true 10". Great figures but too small for me. Of all the 10mm out there, I prefer Pendraken. I also prefer 1" square bases. When I was doing 10mm, I tended to put three figures in two ranks on one base. Pendraken is a bit more like 12mm and costs .20 each, plus shipping from the UK. This makes each stand cost $1.20. BTW Minifigs are .35 each! Ouch! Because 10mm is now more expensive than 15mm, I switched to 15mm. Old Glory and Battle Honors 15mm are still .25 each. In 15mm, I place only three on a stand in a ragged line. .75 per 15mm stand versus $1.20 USD for a 10mm stand. |
| CATenWolde | 13 May 2008 10:01 p.m. PST |
Old Smokie – have you tired copying the whole line of the link, all the way to the "JPG"? It should work. SwmapFox – yes, we went with GHQ for this one. However, Pendraken is usually my favorite, and one of the reasons is, as you mention, that GHQ is small enough to be in a size category by itself. Starfort figures match them pretty well, but others are too large. Pendraken, AIM, and Ten High by the Baggage Train all seem to mix well at the larger end of the spectrum. However, keep in mind that you can actually clip the bases on Pendraken figures (they come nice large round bases) and fit them on a 5mm frontage per figure if you like – I do this for WSS for instance but Colonials. Price is unfortunately becoming a factor nowadays, but the slide of the dollar is actually what made the GHQ acceptable for me (in Europe at the moment). Shagnasty – how spectacularly useful. |
John Leahy  | 13 May 2008 10:21 p.m. PST |
I went with the original 10mm Acw (10 high) many years ago. I supplemented them with Aim/GFI figs which I like. Old Glory would be too small for the most part. Mine are mounted 16 figs per stand (1/2 scale VnB). Originally mounted for FnF. Love the scale. Thanks, John |
John Leahy  | 13 May 2008 10:21 p.m. PST |
Oop, that's 2/3 scale VnB. Thanks, John |
| Last Hussar | 14 May 2008 6:12 p.m. PST |
I always used 10mm. I'm surprised that Fox thinks 10mm is more expensive. Pendraken are 10p figure, where as 15mm is about 25p/figure. Obviously depens on how many you put on a base. I have 3/base due to cost when I started- I keep thinking about rebasing to 5- thats still only 50p- the same as 2 15mm |
John Leahy  | 14 May 2008 6:33 p.m. PST |
Well, comparing Old Glory to Old Glory 10mm vs 15mm is 15 cents per figure vs 30 cents per figure. Downside is 10mm are multibased. So 1 stand of 10mm figs vs a 3 figure 15mm stand is 75 cents vs 90 cents. Seems like a decent trade off. Less cost effective if using multiple 10mm stands. Thanks, John |