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fix bayonets11 May 2008 2:25 p.m. PST

Did Grenadier battalions in British and their allies have these guns ?

Stephen

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2008 5:46 p.m. PST

As far as I know, the answere is No.

Redhazel211 May 2008 6:04 p.m. PST

The Hesse Kassel converged grenadier battalions in the American Revolution each had two 3pd cannon attached to the battalion crewed by Hessian Artillery Korps. The Breymann Battalion converged of Brunswick grenadier companies had two 4pd battalion cannon attached to it crews provided by Capt. Pausch's Hesse Hanau Artillery Company. When the two cannon were lost by Breymann's Grenadier battalion at Bennington, they were replaced by two six pd. cannons to then be lost at the Breynn redoubt fight.

andygamer11 May 2008 6:40 p.m. PST

Not AWI, but the Prussian combined grenadier btns that were permanent for the length of the war had them, IIRC often howitzers, so it would make sense for the Prussian-clone Protestant states to use them with their standing grenadier btns too.

historygamer12 May 2008 6:27 a.m. PST

Battalion guns, as far as I know, were a type of gun (light) and not specific to a particular formation during the AWI period. So the answer would seem – it depends on the battle. It was all ad hoc.

fix bayonets12 May 2008 7:42 p.m. PST

Thankyou fellas. I should have put for the SYW.

It has me thinking then were grenadiers used more for attack than defence in regards to the amount of metal they could bring to bear on an enemy in the firing line ?

historygamer14 May 2008 8:08 a.m. PST

I'm not sure I understand your question.

I am not up on SYW Brits, but in N. American guns were assigned as needed, by the senior artillery officer. Battalion guns (a weight and carriage class) were no different.

Converged grenadier battalions were elite troops (or were regarded as such anyway) often assigned specific missions, or positions in the line. Their posture overall (defense or offense) depended on the army missions and objectives.

If by the amount of metal, do you mean muskets or bayonets, or both? That would depend on how many companies formed the converged battalion, but there is nothing to indicate they shot any better than their hat counterparts. It was their morale that was supposed to be superior, as they all used the same muskets. :-)

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