"Medal of Honor Airbourne, unrealistic wwii games" Topic

Got this game last Christmas. After i finally got a good enough computor to play it, i beat the game in no less than 6 hours. Kinda dissappointing

It started of well enough. Fighting in Italy against Italians who natural had the worst AI in the game. The game goes on and the germans are starting to get more difficult to kill. Then the whole game becomes completely silly. An elite German Storm Trooper, or whatever they called him comes walking out of the smoke. He dressed completely in Black, wearing a gasmask, and weilding a Mg-42 like a submachine gun, and standing in the open mowes down my whole squad which is in cover.

Ok and so it just really hollywood, but i'll let that go. Then you have to kill him. I unload a whole magazine from a BAR into his torso. He shakes it off and starts strolling towards me with his Mg-42 rattling. I unload another magazine into his face. No effect. I start throwing HE explosive grenades at him. No effect. I could have destroyed two tiger tanks with the grenades i've thrown at him already. It takes me about 30 trys to finally kill this immortal nazi. Hardest part of the whole game.

Anyone else played MoH airbourne?, because after an experience like that, its kinda a hard game to take seriously. Your thoughts+ plus worst realistic wwii game?"

That's interesting. I have played many of the MoH games, and none of them were like this. Maybe they're running out of ideas…

Damon.

Well it is a computer game not a WWII first person simulation…just have fun and role with it.

I have always preferred Brothers in Arms myself

I find them all to be totally unrealistic, no matter what their creators say. They are games I guess.

You must consider that it is purely entertainment. I enjoyed it and played through it twice. I never confused it for reality. Jürgen

it must have been a SS Doom Trooper. ala Scifi channels movie. hahahaha

SS undead vampire alien trooper with regenerative bits and bobs. Nasty fellows.

Should check your magazines to make sure bullets are in them.

If you want a realistic WW2 FPS, try Red Orchestra online. It's an MMO team play game, and lets you try almost all infantry roles from rifleman to squad leader (with the ability to call artillery strikes),or play an armored vehicle or tank crewman. Top notch, as realistic as the designers could make it. It focuses on Eastern Front (41-45) but expansions are under way for other theaters.

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Red Orchestra is an excellent game, but I wouldn't call it as realistic as the designers could make it. The Designers are Russian, and have a definite bias when it comes to the equipment. The armor in the Tiger I, for example, is paper thin, while an SDKFZ with a Pak40 can withstand a direct hit from the front by a T-34/85. Nice game. Still could do with a few tweaks.

The Normandy Mod (Darkest Hour) looks promising. Mare Nostrum is going nowhere fast (a pity, really), and Carpathian Crosses is in open beta, and not drawing much attention, unfortunately.

"he armor in the Tiger I, for example, is paper thin, while an SDKFZ with a Pak40 can withstand a direct hit from the front by a T-34/85."

Nah, I've found it to be more a matter of range and the aspect at which you engage the target. Engage a Tiger at close range with a flat shot with a T34 or IS-2, the Tiger is in trouble. An angled shot, maybe less trouble. Engage it at longer ranges, and you're the one in trouble unless you get it with a plunging shot onto its deck armor. I've played many a game when the Tigers or Panthers just won't DIE, dang it! But any game can do with tweaks. I do wish they supported it with more frequent releases.

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jeg MOH airborne just got to stupid for me.

I also have problems with games were it takes 3-4 shots from a 30.06 to kill someone

RO is good, But I'm not a big fan of russians, and I miss my Garand

Treat it as less of MOH and more of Castle Wolfenstein.

the besty MOH was pacific assault, great garand, with bayonet and great sound.

I would also have liked a game were the thompson acutaly dos some damige.

the sound and feel of the thompson in the brothers in armes games are great, great sound great recoil ect. but it takes like 5-6 round to take a guy down, had the thompson realy been the harmless no one would use it, it got better with mods but still

RO is a great game, no infinite ammo, good ballistics over iron sites for small arms, and ya have to reload by clicking your mouse. So at close quarters with a bolt action rifle, often times you're better off just trying to close and bayonet the other guy.

MOH has always been a bit daft, ever since the first one with even the weakest targets requiring multiple hits to take down (unless you get head shots, assuming you manage to shoot their helmets off first….)

It just uses a very similar incremental damage model to every other FPS game starting with DOOM, so it takes multiple hits and/or ever more powerful weapons to take down harder enemies (who have more 'hit points'). I blame D&D.

The only 'realistic' WW2 FPS I've found is Brothers in Arms, and that in many ways is a bit too realistic – it is like a WW2 version of Full Spectrum Warrior. So expect to die very rapidly if you don't do the fire and movement thing, which in turn is OK for a while but gets tedious quite quickly.

MOH is however a lot of fun, which some of the more realistic games aren't, but think of it as DOOM with ww2 weapons rather a training simulator.

I too grew tired of MOH Airborne.

The opening level was decent, and I did enjoy the drop anywhere idea, but yeah, the game got stupid once I played the Arnhem level and found that the German 'Panzergrenadiers' – who had nothing other than panzerscreks – were shooting at me, THE INFANTRY, instead of my Shermans… But as others have said, most games aren't realistic – they are games. I now play Battleground Europe and Brothers in Arms for realisticality.

Chris

Ya, the most supprising part for me was when the panzerchreks apparently had three rounds loaded at once, because a single german could mangage to fire off 3 rounds in 10 seconds. :P

There is nothing realistic about any wargame. Hence the "game" part.

However, your review has stopped me from buying this.

I don't own any MoH games, I do have Call of Duty 1, 1.5, and 2, and I like those.

"There is nothing realistic about any wargame."

Hmm, not sure about that. Some aspects may be more abstract or exaggerated than others, but many games make at least some attempt at realistic simulation, particularly those used for military training (which includes commercial wargames).

Depends what you are trying to model really.