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mad mac28 Apr 2008 3:39 a.m. PST

This is a bit of a departure from my usual periods.

I read the article and saw the advert in Wargames Illustrated 247 (May 2008, and it has re-sparked an interest that I had when I first stated gaming in the early 80s, The War of the Spanish Succession.

I would probably do this in 6mm (Baccus fault).

Has anyone used these rules or given them a try?

If so can someone give me an idea of the mechnisms etc. and what the alternatives are.

Captain Clegg28 Apr 2008 4:51 a.m. PST

Very simple, moving, firing and combat. All firing is done by base, which for infantry hold six figures and cavalry four.
Die roll determines how many units a commander may move each turn, based on commander's rating. Both sides then move and fire, then melee takes place. Infantry with pikes do not fight back against cavalry as such but the pikes allow for saving throws. Infantry basically get to fire as the cavalry try to charge home.
I like the rules, they are easy to pick up and seem to give a good feel for the era whilst keeping simple mechanisms.
Hope this helps
Simon

NoLongerAMember28 Apr 2008 5:22 a.m. PST

How well do they cover the WSS period, which is fairly Pikeless (there being a debate on just when they actually became so)?

MikeHobbs28 Apr 2008 7:57 a.m. PST

Fred they handle WSS really well

the normal size of an infantry unit is 3 bases (18 figs) and when firing in line they are placed side by side

if you are gaming in a period which has pikes then a forth pike base is placed behind the center base of the unit

this way the unit is always 3 bases wide and so has a set frontage for firing

I have only just picked them up but am looking at gaming the GNW period using them

Mike

foot soldier29 Apr 2008 6:05 a.m. PST

Hello,
If you are in the States and looking for a copy of the ruleset we have some in stock.

Cheers,
Rob
Eureka Miniatures USA
eurekaminusa.com

mghFond29 Apr 2008 7:11 a.m. PST

I just got my set via airmail from UK and as I suspected cavalry are mounted 3 to a stand not 4 as the one reviewer stated.

I only bring that up because the detail might be important to folks who already have their cav figures mounted and dont wish to remount.

Guthroth29 Apr 2008 10:39 a.m. PST

Does the base size or number of figures on a base have much bearing on play ?

IOW, how easy is it to use figures already based for other rules ?

Pete

mghFond30 Apr 2008 9:10 a.m. PST

Guthroth,

Actually base size or number of figures isn't crucial but you might have to fidget around a bit with the math. Firing is done by bases of 6 so if your guys are in bases of 4 you need to calculate differently.
Three bases is an infantry battalion. Two bases are a cavalry squadron.
As for base size as long as there is a consistency within your own collection, it shouldnt matter.
The rule book is a real treat to the eyes for the great color shots of 25mm units.
Rules look good too though I havent played them as of yet.
Oh, and Im painting up 10mm to use these rules.

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