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RKE Steve24 Apr 2008 1:56 p.m. PST

Subject says it all. Is anyone playing any Sci Fi and or Modern 20mm mini games? If so what do you do for terrain?

What would you LIKE in the way of terrain for 20mm modern and Sci Fi?

infojunky24 Apr 2008 2:57 p.m. PST

Not me, considered it but there was so little out there it wasn't worth the investment of time or effort. You would think there would be more with all the 1/72nd models available, but alas it is another forgotten scale/genre when it comes to SF.

cloudcaptain24 Apr 2008 3:22 p.m. PST

I've been bitten by the Modern 20mm bug.

We need some affordable precut(etc) kits for Middle Eastern buildings!!! Along the lines of Pictor's building blanks that he used to do. Finished buildings are fine too of course.

Several of the current modern rulesets don't allow you to go inside buildings per se'…they are just templates of built up areas. If you went the way Wild Walls did with its scifi skyscraper (4 vaccum form walls and a roof)…I'd buy a ton. I've been making mine by hand and cutting them from card and foam but its slow going and messy :) Getting straight lines is a challenge and something pre-manufactured would rule.

There are a few useable resin pieces out there as well as some paper stuff. It tends not to be competitively priced compared to say MBA 28mm stuff which is superb. Crescent Root discontinued their 20mm Arabic stuff before I got into the scale sadly. There is definitely a void there. Conflix terrain has a deset ammo dump and perhaps they will expand that range in the future.

In the interim I need 20mm Israel-style block apartment facades!

The Italeri modular Berlin house is the crow jewel for the scale IMHO. Its a good price for the level of detail…and I like the interiors…but the same thing done facade style would be perfect.

Check:
link

Its been a good source of brain candy for designs.

cloudcaptain24 Apr 2008 3:23 p.m. PST

crown jewel…not crow jewel..

Stealth100024 Apr 2008 5:36 p.m. PST

I was thinking about 20mm sci-fi today. Spooky. Not got any myself.
Tony

occultwars.com

Katzbalger24 Apr 2008 5:47 p.m. PST

Yet another project waiting in the wings for painting time--I bought a bunch of plastic modern figs (Italieri/Revell, IIRC) and a bunch of diecast stuff (from Target and Wallyworld) and already have a bunch of home made buildings--though not enough middle eastern ones.

I do need to get some arabs or chechens or soviets, though that I can use as opposition (Sovs would be painted as Iraqis, Syrians, or Iranians, I think).

That being said, I don't know anyone that wants to play though.

Rob

Personal logo Dentatus Sponsoring Member of TMP Fezian24 Apr 2008 6:36 p.m. PST

Just shifted to 20mm Sci Fi/Near Future myself. Terrain?

hmmm… Non-Gothic please: Bunkers, Fuel Depots, Habitation buildings. Pieces similar to the stuff made for Battletech & Dirtside 2 but in 20mm.

Hey You24 Apr 2008 6:45 p.m. PST

As to modern 1/72 scale, I would like some Middle Eastern Buildings similiar to what cloudcaptain was describing. For SciFi 1/72 I would like to see stuff like the Kryomek buildings in light weight resin and affordable, if possible. kryomekusa.com/terrain.asp

BlackWidowPilot Fezian24 Apr 2008 7:29 p.m. PST

31 years playing STARGUARD! and counting! evil grin

Leland R. Erickson
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John Leahy Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Apr 2008 9:21 p.m. PST

I play 1/72 modern with some 20mm metals. Not a lot in sci-fi and since I do GZG 25mm it's too close so I likely wouldn't. Unless we saw several plastic releases.

Thanks,

John

cloudcaptain24 Apr 2008 10:07 p.m. PST

@Katzbalger

Look at Orion and Esci 20mm plastics as well as Caesar.

I use the "Hobby Lobby" Korean War Koreans as the regulars in my bad guy army myself.

Liberation 20mm figs are some of the best stuff you can get in this scale. Supplement it with FOV stuff as you mentioned…Corgie 1/72….and maybe some New Ray aircraft (not great but cheap). The ERTL 1/72 kits are really nice. Revell makes lots of neat stuff and has just about everything German you would need for moderns. Hotwheels/Matchbox technicals round things out nicely. For Soviet armor check the ACE kits on Ebay. They have LOTS of variant t72s, BTRS, BMPS, etc.

GARY SEVEN JNR25 Apr 2008 3:21 a.m. PST

modern arabic buildings are so in demand for 20mm !!!!!!

RKE Steve25 Apr 2008 5:35 a.m. PST

What about paper terrain? Specially modern urban layouts sort of like the World Works stuff? Would ther ebe some interest there?

And would anyone be interested in a flat layout – kind of like Space Hulk except with the streets, parking lots and then building interior layouts? Would there be interest in that?

RKE Steve25 Apr 2008 6:07 a.m. PST

Liberation minis have a preety extensive line of modern 20mm, I only wish there were more pictures of them. Has anyone seen more pictures of them anywhere?

Also I have been looking at Stan Johansen minis in 20mm. Has anyone purchased any of these? How do they look and how is the service?

Crow Bait25 Apr 2008 9:40 a.m. PST

I get my 20MM metal moderns from Baxter at FA&A in Nashville. He has a good selection of Arab/Afgani bad guys along with modern Army and Marines, vehicles, ect.

I also would love some Arab buildings, either paper or pre-made.

GARY SEVEN JNR25 Apr 2008 10:43 a.m. PST

for rke steve

link

GARY SEVEN JNR25 Apr 2008 10:44 a.m. PST

and for Steve again

link

RKE Steve25 Apr 2008 12:52 p.m. PST

Thanks Gary

Amalric25 Apr 2008 6:53 p.m. PST

I play both Modern and SciFi in 20mm with metal figs from various sources and vehciles in resin, die cast, plastic kits, etc.

What I use for terrain is my WW2 stuff.

What I would like terrain wise would be Cresent Roots 20mm available again, ie Europe & Middle East, but also some more modern looking buildings, facades, as well as those little bits that make the scene like dumpsters and light poles.

But what I really Really REALLY WANT are cheap containers in 20mm. HO train containers are too small and too expensive. I would like a container in resin or better yet as a PDF so I can print 100's of the things for a tabelfull.

Thanks for asking
Amalric

cloudcaptain28 Apr 2008 8:54 a.m. PST

Personally I am not too keen on paper scenery. The stuff from Paper Terrain is really nice but IMHO too costly for buildings in 20mm for paper (Mosque is pretty but $25 USD for a kit). I'd rather just bash out some cork generic stuff.

The paper floors like you mentioned would be good if you did up some interiors like cargo ships (AlA Xcom: Terror from the Deep), labs, etc.

RKE Steve28 Apr 2008 10:49 a.m. PST

Yes interiors along with the exteriors was what I was thinking. The possiblities are endless, as you could start with typical street/business district with simple 2 room store fronts. Then move along to more extension office conplexes, warehouses, train/airports and such.

Grabula28 Apr 2008 11:01 a.m. PST

"modern arabic buildings are so in demand for 20mm !!!!!!"

The problem with the few buildings I've seen done for the middle east, they're a little too middle eastern and not modern enough for 20mm modern without looking a little out of place. There's a definite style in the region but to make it fresh I'd like to see more modernized terrain myself. My 20mm collection is modern and it gets sort of old playing around mud and daub buildings that look more apropriate to WWII then the modern urban battlefield.

jhonpog28 Apr 2008 2:39 p.m. PST

I use star wars micro machine troops. might be a bit small for 20mm but some good and relatively cheap sci fi minis there…

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