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Ken Portner20 Apr 2008 9:18 a.m. PST

Just got a box of these.

They're very nice, but to me they look smaller than my Perry AWI miniatures.

Not shorter; just smaller.

Anyone else notice this?

Pictors Studio20 Apr 2008 9:23 a.m. PST

They do look that way on the sprue and I think it is because of the heads. I have one side by side with a Carlist war british legion fig. The shoulders are the same height but the heads are shorter, probably so you can put the hat on, which is separate and would give the appearance of shortness on the sprue.

But I'm looking at them side by side, right now, with a Perry metal fig and they are the same size.

They might be a touch thinner but the guy I'm looking at is in a slightly different pose. I don't know if I would notice it if it were not pointed out.

Alabama20 Apr 2008 10:22 a.m. PST

What rulesets do you have in mind for these? Is anyone doing Fire and Fury regimental with them?

Ken Portner20 Apr 2008 11:45 a.m. PST

Rules? Who knows. I'll figure that out later.

By the way, if F&F Regimental in actual print or is it just a pdf download?

Mark Wals20 Apr 2008 11:50 a.m. PST

I wqould think that somethimg like Volley and Bayonet wuld work better, F&F in 28mm would leave much room to manuever, give that most gamers don't have a huge reach limiting table size.

Don Johnson20 Apr 2008 10:53 p.m. PST

What you're seeing is the development of sculpting skills.

Let's change perspective, just for a moment – man, look at the big heads on those old Foundry ACW figures. Some weird body proportions mixed in there, too (big hands, big weapons, etc.). Gee, these figs don't hold up to today's figures. Not quite Dixons, but definitely in the prevailing Foundry "style" of the time.

Now let's come back to today. The chant is "Give us REALISTIC figures". The term is not defined, but I think it generally refers to a "correcting" of body parts to produce a piece more in harmony with what we think of as "realistic" shape.

Just another turn of the "style" wheel?

Compare the Foundry AWI with the newer Perry AWI – all parts seem to be in closer proportion to each other, which makes some of the newer figs appear to be smaller. There's no question, however, as to which are a closer approximation of human form – the newer ones. What are we seeing? The continuing improvement of the sculptor. And I think we can all agree – that's a GOOD thing!!

Don Johnson20 Apr 2008 10:55 p.m. PST

I don't have any of the plastic ACW yet, but I accept your word that the refinement trend is continuing. Again, I think that's a good thing. YMMV!!

Footslogger21 Apr 2008 1:40 a.m. PST

BTW, there is a single photo on the Perry website in the "on the workbench" section of "greens" of forthcoming metal figures to accompany the plastics. Very droolworthy IMHO.

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Supporting Member of TMP21 Apr 2008 7:52 a.m. PST

The chant is "Give us REALISTIC figures". The term is not defined, but I think it generally refers to a "correcting" of body parts to produce a piece more in harmony with what we think of as "realistic" shape.

Just another turn of the "style" wheel?

The world is coming around to my way of thinking. I see light at the end of the tunnel, a new hope, if you will.

BTW, the Perry demo game at Salute looked awesome.

Rudysnelson22 Apr 2008 8:08 a.m. PST

Several metal companies have experienced the same problem with changable headgear and heads. Even back in the 1970s and 1980s, those with assorted heads always seemed a little off (shorter) when compared to fully cast pieces.

essayons722 Apr 2008 12:36 p.m. PST

In an earlier post, I mentioned the size difference, but that was compared to Foundry ACW (dismounted Union cavalry, to be precise).

When I put the plastic ACW next to my Perry AWI and Sudan stuff, they fit in just fine.

GregS

jimborex22 Apr 2008 9:22 p.m. PST

A friend bought a box and showed off the figures still on the sprue. The bald heads are a bit unnerving, but being able to tilt the hats and caps slightly; the arms and such just a bit, etc, will make them assemble into a nice set of figs. I look forward to seeing them up and fighting.

Stewbags25 Apr 2008 5:02 a.m. PST

Quite easy to model a hatless head as well.

Footslogger25 Apr 2008 8:33 a.m. PST

The Perry website has the cavalry now available to order, click on the box art picture to see the sprues.

I have succumbed already.

rilboreader25 Apr 2008 9:05 a.m. PST

"The bald heads are a bit unnerving,"

sorry but I just had a fit of the giggles over this…I had a vision of making ACW units fighing Perry figures have a -1 on morale tests for facing bald opponents… the spirit of Python lives on!

kingscarbine28 Apr 2008 6:03 a.m. PST

Just out of curiosity, how many boxes did you guys buy?

WargamersHeadquarters28 Apr 2008 8:26 a.m. PST

Anyone looking for Perry ACW infantry figs ? They have'm at
wargamersheadquarters.com . 4.95 shipping in USA and free shipping with an order over $100 USD .

avidgamer28 Apr 2008 8:32 a.m. PST

I bought 5 boxes.

rilboreader28 Apr 2008 1:00 p.m. PST

I bought 2 on pre-order and have just ordered another 4 and 2 cavalry boxes.

Footslogger29 Apr 2008 3:17 p.m. PST

1 box of infantry to begin with, then another and one of cavalry now on order. (Plus some extra command from Renegade).

onmilitarymatters Sponsoring Member of TMP01 May 2008 12:09 p.m. PST

We're another source for the figures here in the US. And we also stock a full range of uniform guide books.

Details: Perry, Alan and Michael 28MM HARD PLASTIC INFANTRY 1vol, 36pgs 2008 UK, PERRY MINIATURES NEW-box …..$28

The Cavalry are coming in 2-3 weeks.

Perry, Alan and Michael 28MM HARD PLASTIC CAVALRY 1vol, 36pgs 2008 UK, PERRY MINIATURES
NEW-box …..$28…here in 2-3 weeks

Dennis from OMM
onmilitarymatters.com

normsmith02 May 2008 5:54 p.m. PST

I am now a 28mm convert

Gallowglass03 May 2008 5:22 a.m. PST

My cavalry box arrived the other day. Very, very, very nice altogether.

kingscarbine03 May 2008 9:16 a.m. PST

Four ACW1 boxes will provide me:

36 Marching Union infantrymen.
24 Skirmishing Union infantrymen.
24 Marching CSA infantrymen.
36 Skirmishing CSA infantrymen.
12 Officers.
12 Drummer/FB/Infantryman.

I've been toying with the pieces and there are lots of possible new figs if you like converting stuff. The plastic is easy to work with a sharp craft knife and the extra arms provide what you'll need. If you're good working with putty then you'll end up with dozens of variants.

I havn't cavalry yet but the extra pieces will make more conversions possible.

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