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Luisito20 Apr 2008 8:25 a.m. PST

Hi

I was wandering if the Splintered Light Miniatures early Saxons could be used for Anglo Saxons (1066) ?
if yes I will just need to find some 2 handed-Axe men

thanks

doc mcb20 Apr 2008 10:24 a.m. PST

Yes, I think so, but not perhaps exclusively so. If memory serves, the Saxons of 1066 had, for example, a lot of fyrd in "phyregian" style soft caps. I don't think any of the SLM figures have those. But though I'm no expert, I think all the SLM Saxons are dressed as SOME Saxons would have still been dressed in 1066.

Who asked this joker20 Apr 2008 12:10 p.m. PST

They are probably best served as early/middle Saxons. Phyregian caps appeared in all Saxon armies. The helmets of SLM saxons are definitly early/middle and I think they sport some oval shields as well…which points to early.

Daffy Doug20 Apr 2008 12:52 p.m. PST

Early Anglo-Saxons had the same "civies" for the most part. Earlier "fyrd" citizen warriors would be 99% the same as your later unarmored "greater" fyrdmen. The armed boyos are the details that change. The mail byrnies get longer in sleeve and hem and the helmets get a nasal and are usually conical; earlier helms are more rounded on top, and helms at all are quite rare in earlier times. Shields are another change. By late Viking times, most were round and flat, but "lenticular" rounds and ovals were always seen. The "kite" is the give-away period shield. If you put "kites" on 6th century unarmored, unhelmed Saxons, they will be indistinguishable from 1066 English "greater" fyrdmen.

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doc mcb20 Apr 2008 1:26 p.m. PST

Thanks, acarhj and Doug, that is more or less as I thought. The shields are no problem, as they are separate. I'm not sure whether SLM carries kite shields, but surely they are available elsewhere, and perhaps David can get some made -- an easy addition. If you are going to buy huscarls with 2 handed choppers anyway, add some phrygian cap fellows and some kite shields.

doc mcb20 Apr 2008 1:30 p.m. PST

David, it might be good to commission a few sculpts of plainly "later" Saxons, to supplement the existing line.

Splintered Light Miniatures Sponsoring Member of TMP20 Apr 2008 4:12 p.m. PST

Greetings. Later Saxons will definitely be coming at some point but they may have to wait until at least the Irish are done.

Luisito21 Apr 2008 6:58 p.m. PST

thanks for the response from all and David

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