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Brigader 3119 Apr 2008 10:16 a.m. PST

My latest project is the American Civil War in 10mm. For a ruleset I have chosen Guns at Gettysburg and was wondering if anyone else is playing these in 10mm. If so, have you adjusted the ground scale at all? Also, how are you basing your figures? My thought is to begin playing with the standard 15mm ground scale and 1:20 figure ratio but I would like to eventually switch to a 1:15 or even 1:10 ratio as my collection expands to take advantage of the smaller figures. Not sure how this would effect the rules, and am looking for others thoughts. On a related note, is anyone using GHQ and Perrin figures together? If so, how do they mix? Any input you guys have would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

-Mike

Ooh Rah19 Apr 2008 11:26 a.m. PST

The body proportions of GHQ figures are much slimmer/smaller than Perrin. GHQ seem more anatomically correct than Perrin. IMO GHQ mix with Langton and Ten High. Perrin mix better with GFI. I don't have any others for comparison…yet!

Good luck on your Gettysburg project. Sounds ambitious!

Ooh Rah19 Apr 2008 11:27 a.m. PST

"Sounds ambitious!"

I meant that in a positive way. Just read my post and not sure it came across. grin

CATenWolde19 Apr 2008 11:47 a.m. PST

I'm just starting a 10mm ACW project too, and went with GHQ. Perrin will stick out on the same stand as GHQ, although they aren't as large as AIM and Pendraken (which go well together). The Starfort line matches well with GHQ sizewise, although the sculpting is not as fine.

We haven't really settled on a rule set, but are considering Raise the Rebel Yell II (a free variant of On to Richmond). We play a lot of General de Brigade, however, and I'm thinking of British Grenadier for the AWI, so Guns at Gettysburg might be an option for regimental games. What is the standard bases for Guns at Gettysburg? We are thinking of starting with 3 infantry per 15x10mm base.

Cheers,

Christopher

Viper911 Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2008 12:44 p.m. PST

Hi I have the GHQ figs I think there the best I based mine 5 figs to a base 1 x 3/4" doing it this way I can play both brigade and regimental level and since theres about 27 figs per bag you get 5 bases per bag , I am work on a set of regimental rules using a D20 where firing and lost are based a upon number of total figs, Its working pretty good so far I did Picketts charge to check my to hit #s and only a few regiments made it to the wall I will post pics of my next game and more info about my rules.

Thanks

SeattleGamer Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2008 2:00 p.m. PST

Guns at Gettysburg basing:

First, if minis are already based for Johnny Reb or Fire & Fury, no rebasing is necessary.

Second, any basing is probably okay, as long as both sides are based in the same fashion.

However, their specs for 15mm are:
Infantry: 8-12mm per figure, mounted 4 to a base in two ranks
Cavalry: 10-15mm per figure mounted in pairs, threes or fours
Artillery: 30-40mm per gun, each crewed by four figures
Skirmishers: 12-15mm per figure, two to three figures per base, single rank

Stated scales are:
Figure: 1 = 20 men
Guns: 1 = 2 artillery pieces
Ground: approximately 1mm = 1 yard/meter

Agesilaus20 Apr 2008 2:24 p.m. PST

Brigader 31,
I feel your pain. I'm doing the same thing and have painted about a thousand ACW 10mm and have not decided on a rules set. I too am aiming toward 1:10 ratio. I can barely stand the thought of the 2nd Wisconsin Volunteer Infantry at Gettysburg being represented by 30 figures, let alone 6 figures.
As for Minis, I don't worry too much about compatability as long as different figures are not on the same stand. I like the bulkier figures for gaming, but GHQ does nice detail work on equipment like artillery. GFI also has nice artillery(they actually have the correct 14 spoke wheel). Most of my infantry is Perrin and GFI. I prefer GFI horses.

Sparrowhawk20 Apr 2008 5:28 p.m. PST

I don't have any 10mm ACW yet. But I do have other 10mm armies. What I tend to do is keep the basing, ranges and movement for the larger sized figures and simply put more figures on the stated base size. So my 10mm armies are actually based as 15mm or 28mm armies and the rules play as they are written for those sizes. It's just the aesthetics that change.

EJNashIII22 Apr 2008 9:26 a.m. PST

I follow Sparrowhawks idea. The nice thing about 10mm is that 8 figures in 2 ranks in very period correct tight formation fit perfectly on a 1" wide base. (I use 7/8" x 1" stands.) So, when you are in march column they are the correct number of figures wide (4) and all the period tactical evolutions fall correctly into place. In addition, you get a more correct gun crew (4) on a 1" by 3/4" to 1" artillery stand. If you turn the stand longwise it perfectly fits a color guard (9) men.

SJDonovan23 Apr 2008 3:26 a.m. PST

I'm also currently painting up a couple of ACW armies and had been planning to use the Guns at Gettysburg rules. I was going to follow the route that Sparrowhawk and EJNashill suggest of using 15mm basing conventions but doubling up the number of figures (changing the ratio from 1:20 to 1:10). However, I felt this could lead to confusion when keeping track of casualties, number of figures firing etc. I've therefore decided against using Guns at Gettysburg and have opted for GHQ's own Micro Force ACW rules which are specifially designed for 10mm figures.

Stephen

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