| Earl of the North | 09 Apr 2008 5:14 a.m. PST |
Hi Bill There a bit of scrap over Weird War 2 topics at the moment, with a few historical guys protesting that weird war 2 topics shouldn't be crossposted to the WW2. The one that started it all TMP link , I don't have a problem with the way things have stood up to now, crossposts to WW2, Sci-fi, Pulp and Horror but what are the rules. Should we not be posting to the WW2 boards. I sent you an email Bill and then thought why didn't I just start a topic on Talk about TMP. Praetor XII |
| Earl of the North | 09 Apr 2008 6:15 a.m. PST |
Best idea so far.  |
| dave talley | 09 Apr 2008 6:16 a.m. PST |
my only advice to help minimise the twisted panty bunch, is to simply add weird war in the title so they wont click it if they click it then they cant complain Dave |
| Martin Rapier | 09 Apr 2008 6:20 a.m. PST |
In fairness, there is also this thread TMP link in which people are merely responding to the question. The only specific 'rules' I've found in the FAQ about posting are to do with politics and religion, but if someone asks a question on a board about whether topics should go there or not, it doesn't seem unreasonable to respond one way or another
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| streetline | 09 Apr 2008 6:32 a.m. PST |
Wow. Whatever drove the Nappy players mad has started work on another period. Weird! ;-) |
| Earl of the North | 09 Apr 2008 6:32 a.m. PST |
There is also this one TMP link on the Pulp gaming Board. I don't think anybody has complained about people voicing their opinions. |
| Earl of the North | 09 Apr 2008 6:53 a.m. PST |
My complaint was with an amazingly militant guy claiming ownership of the WW2 boards and making up rules for posting there. But i'm now just going to follow the excellent advice above.  |
John the OFM  | 09 Apr 2008 6:54 a.m. PST |
Post what you want, where you want. Let Bill sort it out. If you want to post on "SS Doomtrupen Zombies" on WW2 Discussion, go ahead and do so. The burden of proof is on those who object to prove that they did not exist. The bottom line is that only two people have any say on where you post: you, and the Almighty Editor. Anybody else is nothing but a Nattering Nabob of Negativism. Of course, that's easy for me to say. I only have 4 boards turned off. Ignore people who disagree with you. It's the sure path to happiness. |
| Martin Rapier | 09 Apr 2008 7:02 a.m. PST |
"But i'm now just going to follow the excellent advice above." Yes, it isn't worth getting wound up about stuff like this. As John says, it is up to Bill what is OK and what isn't. |
| La Long Carabine | 09 Apr 2008 7:29 a.m. PST |
My complaint was with an amazingly militant guy claiming ownership of the WW2 boards and making up rules for posting there. Is there a proper etiquette for a "board"ing action when one seizes control of a board? I've had my eye on "Total Containment" for a while
. LLC aka Ron |
| Griefbringer | 09 Apr 2008 7:37 a.m. PST |
I would still recommend against excessive use of cross-posting; sometimes some posters manage to add 10-15 different boards to the recipients. If you want to have a wide audience, then using the general board would be most recommendable. Griefbringer |
John the OFM  | 09 Apr 2008 7:47 a.m. PST |
i say it's about time that the WW2 boards started sharing the load of acrimonious posts. Why should Napoleonics carry the whole burden? It's just not fair, |
Tgerritsen  | 09 Apr 2008 7:56 a.m. PST |
Is it so hard NOT to click on a topic that you find no interest in? I don't get the objections. I have all the boards open, so I get to see everything- I just click on the stuff I care about. It's not difficult. |
Dropzonetoe  | 09 Apr 2008 8:40 a.m. PST |
TGerritsen, Good advise
Shame it'll be ignored. I had the same argument about movie spoilers posts. People keep looking in them and yelling
now I know all about the movie. It has been clearly shown multiple times, that I am wrong suggesting that people simply don't click on the posts. oh, And i wish I could keep all the boards open, i've only got like 1/4 left checked as I'm a front page guy. Once it's gone I don't look unless I'm scanning a search of my posts. God, what I'd give for a [Next Page] option at the bottom of the site. |
| Ditto Tango 2 1 | 09 Apr 2008 9:54 a.m. PST |
My complaint was with an amazingly militant guy claiming ownership of the WW2 boards and making up rules for posting there. I think that's very unfair and that you need to learn to keep your anger contained to the topic in which it was stoked. Karl claimed no such thing, but what is very apparent by your behaviour on the topic in question and your continual generation of new topics to express this anger is that you are reacting in a very churlish manner. I think you need to take a breath and focus on what the issue is about and that's whether or not the posts on horror/sci fi/fantasy versions of WWII belong on the WWII boards or if they should go elsewhere or even require a new board of their own? -- Tim |
| Earl of the North | 09 Apr 2008 10:38 a.m. PST |
"I think that's very unfair and that you need to learn to keep your anger contained to the topic in which it was stoked. Karl claimed no such thing, but what is very apparent by your behaviour on the topic in question and your continual generation of new topics to express this anger is that you are reacting in a very churlish manner." Have you read the several, large aggressive rants by Karl or did you skim through them and then claim that i'm acting in a churlish manner. I started two topics, one on pulp to ask if they should be the home of Weird war 2 and there is not a single attack on that topic and this one which is also free of attacks, any thing to back up your statement that i'm continually starting topics? I started this one to find out whether I would be wrong to crosspost to the WW2 board as I have in the past. I posted comments on a connected topic, i'm sorry I didn't submit historical topics for 6 months before I was allowed to post anything connected with Weird War 2 as Karl suggests. "Give us 6 months of straight historical postings models game reports questions ect. Put your money where your mouth is and earn it! Just like every historical gamer has always had to. " I'm frankly backing the status quo, that we are free to post Weird War 2 stuff, as we have been doing on the WW2 boards for some time. |
| Earl of the North | 09 Apr 2008 10:43 a.m. PST |
If I acted in a churlish manner, I apologise but I've never seen a reaction like this on TMP to a guy daring to post on a board (except CA and Napoleonics) , maybe you could also go and to speak to Karl about his behaviour, except you see nothing wrong in his do you? |
John the OFM  | 09 Apr 2008 10:47 a.m. PST |
I think the real question is "Who has the right to define content on specific boards?" I submit that is NOT self-appointed "experts". It is up to the Editor to set such standards, and up to the rest of us to follow them. Hit the [!] if you must, but it is churlish to argue the point in the topic. Particularly if your "reasoned" argument fills the monitor screen twice over with each post. Even though I agree with much of what Praetor XII's "nemesis" says on moral grounds, to him I say "You're not the boss of me". If Bill wants to exclude Weird War stuff from WW2 discussion, that is his call to make, and if so, to set up a "Weird WW2 Board". It is no one else's call. |
| Earl of the North | 09 Apr 2008 10:56 a.m. PST |
That was my point, its up to Bill to decide this stuff, If Bill say don't post Weird WW2 stuff on the scif-fi board I won't, althrough I think if so it needs a board of its own, but if not i've no problem with it getting posted to the sci-fi board (among others such as Horror or Pulp)
..where the hell should King Kong v Germans stuff be posted by the way (there are pics of this on the Weird WW2 site). |
| Ditto Tango 2 1 | 09 Apr 2008 11:09 a.m. PST |
here the hell should King Kong v Germans stuff be posted by the way Yes, that does make one think what is that classified as? Historical? Sci fi? Fantasy? Horror? Or would it be pulp? I have no idea.  -- Tim |
| Earl of the North | 09 Apr 2008 11:34 a.m. PST |
It should have read That was my point, its up to Bill to decide this stuff, If Bill say don't post Weird WW2 stuff on the WW2 board I won't, althrough I think if so it needs a board of its own, but if not i've no problem with it getting posted to the sci-fi board (among others such as Horror or Pulp Its a big big damn dirty ape, do we have a 'fictional creatures who dont fit on the other boards' board? 
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| vtsaogames | 09 Apr 2008 12:30 p.m. PST |
If you walk in dressed like a guy, you should leave the same way. Oh, wait a minute
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| GeoffQRF | 09 Apr 2008 12:57 p.m. PST |
If in doubt, don't do it (applies both to cross-posting and cross-dressing) |
John the OFM  | 09 Apr 2008 1:00 p.m. PST |
There is no place to put a Baron Muchhausen game except on 18th Century. Do we need a separate "Weird 18th Century Board"? Do we need Renaissance Sci-fi Board if we have a "1632" battle report? Roman Sci-fi Board if there is a "Lest Darkness Fall" game? I can predict with 100% certainty that if Bill sets up a "Weird WW2 Board" that he will get howls of indignation and threats to quit from the "Too many boards!" crowd. |
| Greyalexis | 09 Apr 2008 9:42 p.m. PST |
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| Sane Max | 10 Apr 2008 12:04 a.m. PST |
Simple rule – never post when you are cross. Take a deep breath and post when you are calm. Pat |
| Captain Apathy | 10 Apr 2008 6:02 a.m. PST |
Well I feel compelled to post weird war II stuff on the WWII board now. Just for fun. |
| Martin Rapier | 10 Apr 2008 6:10 a.m. PST |
"Well I feel compelled to post weird war II stuff on the WWII board now" Funnily enough, I do as well. I'm sure we've had wierd war/pulp stuff there before and no-one has complained. In fact I'm sure I contributed to a couple of threads about German uniforms for pulp games – which is fine as it is vaguely historical, plus one about nazi UFOs or similar. Of course now it has been point out people are jumping up and down about it. It comes back to the fundamental problem of using boards as a genre classification system. If we relied on sensible subject headers instead
.but I know I'm a voice in the wilderness on that one. 'Wargaming' and 'Other Stuff', all the boards you'll ever need. |
| Captain Apathy | 10 Apr 2008 6:23 a.m. PST |
Sorry, I am coming into this argument late, but I agree with you Martin. The biggest complaint I have about the thread is the attitude and volume of Overlord44's posts and how he likes to paint all US Historic gamers with the same brush. This statement alone says alot. Your're in the UK and may not be aware that here in the states we historical gamers had to almost literally fight to get our own convetions. Historicon started in a parking garage to get away from the fantasy/sci-fi gamers.
There is a big squabble here in the states and specifically the East Coast over Historicon banning (maybe too strong a word) any fantasy and sci-fi related games until the last day of the con. Personally I think it is a silly move, but it is their con and they can do what they wish. TMP is a different matter altogether. I imagine much of the angst over the Weird War II issue is related to this same movement. |
John the OFM  | 10 Apr 2008 7:50 a.m. PST |
How are zombies any less "real" than a FoW battle report pitting North Africa Americans versus Finns? Both are Middle War, and shoot, they are even technicaly on different sides! |