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Grizwald21 Nov 2007 8:12 a.m. PST

On the SU122 thread the unnecessary proliferation of boards for different scales in WWII raised its ugly head again.

It occurs to me that there is a relatively simple way for the TMP membership to "vote with their feet" on this.

We agree to only post here in the "WWII Discussion Board". On all the scale specific boards simply post a topic saying "This board is now defunct, please post on the WWII Discussion Board".

Is it worth a try?

Waterloo21 Nov 2007 8:40 a.m. PST

Yes, a little civil disobedience is a good thing. Man the barricades!

Tom

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP21 Nov 2007 9:00 a.m. PST

I agree that there are way too many WWII boards. I check the general discussion board often but very rarely look at all of the various scale boards.

Personal logo Gungnir Supporting Member of TMP21 Nov 2007 9:11 a.m. PST

Perfect plan, Mike.

DColtman21 Nov 2007 9:13 a.m. PST

I always thought the proliferate scale boards on WW2 was some kind of facetious response to requests for more specific boards from the "splitters". As a "lumper" I would rather see one ww2 land board.

Richard Baber21 Nov 2007 9:17 a.m. PST

I only post on the one WW2 board anyway, don`t even look at the other various "scale" ones – I have a life.

panzerfrans21 Nov 2007 9:20 a.m. PST

I don't have any problems with the way in which these boards are set up.

I currently check the 15mm, Discussion and Rules boards on a regular bases because that's what I'm currently interested in, I certainly don't look forward at having to shift through pages of topics I'm not interested in.

If there is a problem it is with people using the wrong board or cross posting all over the place and fouling up other boards with topics not belonging there.

That's my opinion anyway.

Greetings, Frans.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik21 Nov 2007 9:20 a.m. PST

IMO WW2 warrants subdivisions in different scales because it is a popular genre and has strong and devout followings in at least 3 scales: 15, 20 and 25/28. If we throw every scale into a generic WW2 board, looking for a specific topic of interest in a scale would be harder.

Gamers are very territorial and defensive when it comes to scales. 28mm gamers even have a separate 1/48 scale board, because some people like 1/48 and others like 1/56. The subdivisions of boards by scale makes everybody happy.

ElGrego21 Nov 2007 9:37 a.m. PST

There's no guarantee that it would work, Mike, but it is worth a try.

Iberian Warrior21 Nov 2007 9:51 a.m. PST

I am all for it. I don't have the time to search through multiple boards and would rather have one to scroll through.

Matakishi21 Nov 2007 10:45 a.m. PST

The subdivisions of boards by scale makes everybody happy

No it doesn't.

Barmy Flutterz21 Nov 2007 11:00 a.m. PST

I'm thinking at the very least 10mm and 12mm could be smooshed together.

CPBelt21 Nov 2007 11:29 a.m. PST

Let's put it to a vote on a poll! Too many WWII boards.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP21 Nov 2007 11:32 a.m. PST

WW2Fanatik--

Then why not break all periods down by scale? I know guys who game ACW in 6mm, 15mm, 20mm, 25mm and I am considering buying 54mm troops. These guys can all get along on one general board. Without checking, isn't the WWII board the only one broken down by scale? Not trying to start a peeing contest with you, just curious about why you think the WWII board should be different than the rest of the boards, which seem to work quite nicely.

TeutonicTexan21 Nov 2007 11:35 a.m. PST

It's fine the way it is. I'd rather not see all the scale specific "who makes the best x in xmm" in the main discussion board. The problem is the crossposting by the topic starters.

Perhaps we need some moderator underlings with authority to trim the number of crossposts within the same board groups (ie boards underneath WWII Land). Maybe condense the 2mm, 3mm into the 6mm/microscale board and the 10mm/12mm boards into one. Other than that the subdivisions are fine, IMO.

panzerfrans21 Nov 2007 11:48 a.m. PST

If there is anything wrong with these boards it is the lack of a "correct" button next to the "delete" button.

Greetings, Frans.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik21 Nov 2007 1:11 p.m. PST

"Not trying to start a peeing contest with you, just curious about why you think the WWII board should be different than the rest of the boards, which seem to work quite nicely."

Once upon a time there was only one WW2 discussion board for land, sea and air I believe. Now WW2 Land alone has multiple subcategories broken down by scale. Maybe there were too many posts in too many different scales on the same board. I can't speak for the other boards such as Napoleonics, ACW or AWI, but WW2 posts seem to be high volume. Maybe the popularity of FOW (for 15mm) have something to do with this, I dunno.

Canuck721 Nov 2007 1:41 p.m. PST

I agree that there are too many WWII boards, and if I had a choice I think I'd drop all the various scale boards and lump them into a WWII Miniatures/Models Discussion board. It seems that most of the stuff put in those categories are either rulebook in ___ scale (which can just as easily go into the WWII Rules board), pictures of ___ scale models, and 'is this available in ___ scale?'.

Chris

P.S. I agree with you on that, Panzerfrans!

panzerfrans21 Nov 2007 2:05 p.m. PST

Well, if you guys really want to reduce the number of different scale boards why not replace them with something referring to the scale of conflict they're mostly used for.
Something like "Operational Scale 2~8 mm", "Tactical Scale 10~20 mm", and "Skirmish Scale 25~54 mm".

Greetings, Frans.

Martin Rapier21 Nov 2007 2:56 p.m. PST

"Is it worth a try?"

That is what I do at the moment anyway – front page and sometimes look at the general WW2 discussion.

"Something like "Operational Scale 2~8 mm", "Tactical Scale 10~20 mm", and "Skirmish Scale 25~54 mm"."

Hmm, not sure level of engagement is tied to scale, I do operational gaming in 6mm, 15mm and 20mm and I've done skimirsh in anything from 6mm to 54mm.

It isn't like there are that many messages to go through, just put sensible subject headers in.

Anyway, we can bellyache as much as we like, Bill likes his boards and they will continue to proliferate for ever. I, for one, just won't use them and if I miss something because it is only posted to the 3mm WW2 Burma 1942 board, then so be it. It is a hobby not a job.

panzerfrans21 Nov 2007 3:07 p.m. PST

Well, I did include "mostly" didn't I ;o)

Greetings, Frans.

Bardolph21 Nov 2007 5:43 p.m. PST

How come there isn't a 5mm board? The 6mm board is all well and good but when I bought all those Heroics and Ros infantry figs they were sold as 5mm not 6mm!

More seriously, I agree with the OP. The number of separate boards is ridiculous.

aercdr21 Nov 2007 7:34 p.m. PST

Let's consolidate, perhaps posters should just include the sale in the titles of thie posts.

John the OFM21 Nov 2007 9:09 p.m. PST

It doesn't bother me at all, since I have all the boards turned on.
I post to the "WW2 15mm" board if I have a specific question about Flames of War, or 15mm miniatures.
the grouping does make it easier to search the archives.
I have a suspicion it would be equally handy in Napoleonics, Ancients and AWI, but to suggest such a thing would only get me lynched, so I won't.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian21 Nov 2007 10:12 p.m. PST

Let's put it to a vote on a poll! Too many WWII boards.

Will run poll next Thursday!

ravachol29 Nov 2007 2:10 a.m. PST

not enough scale polls in other periods, it helps searching faster trough theposts (mostly for old threads).

By John 5429 Nov 2007 2:40 a.m. PST

Really have no problem, except one, for the second time, I find myself agreeing with Panzerfrans, please stop this now! I can't take it.
As to the boards, I look at the ones that interest me, and not the others, is this really so hard???

Love and Fransharmony

John

ciaphas29 Nov 2007 2:50 a.m. PST

the thing is even with all the boards somepeople give answers about the wrong scale.

i know that i asked a question on thw 10mm board and i got a reply asking in what scale. perhaps if i had crossposted to another scale this may have been valid but i didn't.

so i don't know if this is a pro to many boards post or an anti to many boards post.


jon

SDallimore29 Nov 2007 2:19 p.m. PST

Eliminate everything but the 28mm for all I care – that's all I ready anyway.

goragrad29 Nov 2007 4:42 p.m. PST

With cross posting of topics it does not appear to be a problem to have the scales separated. General discussion carries most of the things that I am interested in.

andyoneill30 Nov 2007 4:11 a.m. PST

I think there are way too many boards.

Is someone moving topics across the damn things?

That thread about the Russian machine gun.
How the hell did that end up on 25/28mm scale?
What's it got to do with scale at all?
The one about US vs UK squad firepower.
Somehow that seems to have disappeared from general discussion and arrived in the rules board.

There's discussion about colours of uniform in specific scale boards.
What's scale got to do with that?

It's a mess.
LESS BOARDS please!

Paul L30 Nov 2007 3:39 p.m. PST

I'm for less boards even though I like being able to look for miniature reviews specifically for 15mm, 20mm, and 25-28mm. The rest, who cares. :op

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