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14 Sep 2007 8:23 a.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Changed title from "Iamges of Barbed Wire - East Front?" to "Images of Barbed Wire - East Front?"

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Lentulus14 Sep 2007 6:23 a.m. PST

Can anyone recommend some picture sources? I have some ideas and raw materials for terrain production, but I could use some examples.

SteveJ14 Sep 2007 6:27 a.m. PST

Dare I say it…tried Google Images yet?

Lentulus14 Sep 2007 6:30 a.m. PST

tried Google Images yet?

Yup.

Palafox14 Sep 2007 6:31 a.m. PST

I was going also recommending Google.

Lentulus14 Sep 2007 6:39 a.m. PST

My mental image of barbed wire entanglements is coiled barbed wire streached out with stakes every 3-4 meters. Sometimes stacked, two bottom coils and one top. Wire wrapped around x shaped supports where it should be removable like accross roads.

Anyone seen anything that would contradict that for USSR or Germans on the eastern front.

Chalfant14 Sep 2007 7:34 a.m. PST

Lentulus:

There are a number of "styles" of wire obstacles. Armies like the WWII Germans would employ several different "styles" depending on resources, time, and terrain.

While not a link to "east front", this is a description of German wire fortifications in WWII…. they would use the same methods everywhere (and basically, this description seems pretty close to universal).

link

And something more specific on the Soviets, but less specific on the wire.

link

Chalfant

Chalfant14 Sep 2007 7:42 a.m. PST

Oh, from that first link… the trip wire obstacles (tanglefoot), I think that there is a typo there… I think the wire should be at 1 foot 8 inches (20")…..

reference here the US version (you will see the similarities), and the tanglefoot (trip wire obstacle) is set at 9"-30".

link

Chalfant

Lentulus14 Sep 2007 8:07 a.m. PST

Thanks! That gives me some good prototype for barbed wire terrain segments.

Troop of Shewe Fezian14 Sep 2007 11:20 a.m. PST

lentulus, and me -lol-

thanks for the links guys.

Pizzagrenadier14 Sep 2007 11:38 a.m. PST

I bought a set of these the other day from Rattlehead Games (GREAT service by the way!).

link

I haven't put mine together or painted them yet, but the kit is perfect for being able to reproduce what you see in the above links. There is even a place on the website that shows how to do some of the different types (coil, curtain, etc.)

Keith

Pizzagrenadier14 Sep 2007 11:40 a.m. PST

My bad, here is the link for doing different barbed wire obstacle types…

foxvillas.f2s.com/Ideas3.htm

Sturmgrenadier14 Sep 2007 9:40 p.m. PST

Very nice barbed wire link there…

When I think of Barbed wire obstacles, I think Cat 1, 2 & 3 wire (8, 88 and 8o8, needing 2, 4 or 5 Concertina's) personally.
I know that's modern style, but it's near enough for most purposes.
8 is the style of the last obstacle, however I'm used to the concertina's having wire similar to the top method keeping it in place (without the cross wires of course), rather than being loose.

chronoglide15 Sep 2007 1:31 a.m. PST

I love the way Pammie cocks hger leg over the Triumph….
"How utterly Bleeped texted heroic…."

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