| Acharnement | 13 Sep 2007 8:38 a.m. PST |
Hi all- perhaps my web-fu is weak but I can't find any d2's available. Certainly I could flip a coin, roll a d6 or any other die and read the lower half of results as 1's and the higher half as 2's, or write 1's and 2's on a blank die- but no! What kind of gamer would I be if I didn't pursue this quest? So- who makes an actual 2-sided object, labeled with a 1 and a 2 (Lawrence Welk RIP)? I see Serenity RPG uses a d2 but I can't find any images on the net of them. Can anyone help? |
| CorpCommander | 13 Sep 2007 8:41 a.m. PST |
Yes. Look for "Math Dice". I have one with 1's and 0's on it. It is a 6 sided die. |
| GoodBye | 13 Sep 2007 8:41 a.m. PST |
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| CorpCommander | 13 Sep 2007 8:43 a.m. PST |
Found them: link They are called Binary Dice. |
| Daffy Doug | 13 Sep 2007 8:43 a.m. PST |
Yeah, "Prince Valiant the Story-telling Game" was designed around throwing handsful of coins, heads and tails, = d2. |
| Condottiere | 13 Sep 2007 8:49 a.m. PST |
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| Lentulus | 13 Sep 2007 9:20 a.m. PST |
I'll sell copper ones for 25 cents each, plus postage. Numbers hand inked, decorative background enngraving, |
Gungnir  | 13 Sep 2007 9:32 a.m. PST |
Our foundation sells a Native American version, with more scores options: link |
| Agent Smith | 13 Sep 2007 9:40 a.m. PST |
How about half of a D4? 1-2=1 and 3-4=2 Just a thought Glen |
| jeffreyw3 | 13 Sep 2007 9:41 a.m. PST |
Scotsman was opining in another thread that he thought the play dynamics of computer-moderated games were never the same, which accounted for their relative lack of success. Interesting to see how something seemingly as inconsequential as rolling a die is integral to the experience. :-) jeff |
| Daffy Doug | 13 Sep 2007 9:42 a.m. PST |
How about odds = 1 and evens = 2, roll ANY die. |
| Jerzei Balowski | 13 Sep 2007 9:49 a.m. PST |
I had a D1 once, but only due to a dimensional rift.  |
| (Blank Name) | 13 Sep 2007 10:06 a.m. PST |
I have a couple. Six sides half are red with a '1' and the word 'ODDS' and the other half blue or black with a '2' and the word evens. So they are made. I probably bought them at a local store. No idea who made them. |
Bobgnar  | 13 Sep 2007 10:06 a.m. PST |
Lord Love has the best (my) answer. Roll any d6, odd=1, even=2. I really like those binary dice. Use 6 and take sum, and you can get 0-6 what are the odds of each number 0 to 6? |
| vojvoda | 13 Sep 2007 10:17 a.m. PST |
You could do the same odd even route on a D-10 and get the same results! Chessix makes some blank D-6 that you could mark yourself. I heard a penny will sell on the market at just over 1 cent. VR James Mattes |
| Top Gun Ace | 13 Sep 2007 10:35 a.m. PST |
As mentioned, a penny is probably your best option, although if you want to add a bit more suspense into your games, use a 1D100, since they take more time to stop. Odds = 1; Evens = 2 If you must, use a label, or tape small pieces of paper to a penny, on both sides, labeled 1, and 2. |
Hundvig  | 13 Sep 2007 11:05 a.m. PST |
On a related note, I wonder if there'd be a market for quantum indeterminancy dice? Little sealed opaque boxes with regular dice rattling around inside, but no way to see what result actually comes up. Of course, you'd have the old problem of Scrodinger's Cat batting them off the table
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Formerly Regiment Games  | 13 Sep 2007 11:07 a.m. PST |
For some of my games that use a "D2" I use Othello pieces from a copy of the game I got cheap at Big Lots when it was called MacFrugal's. White on one side, black on the other. From memory
I used them for a Viet Nam game. Three whites was a pin and five was a kill. Two pins was a kill. Different teams/weapons flipped different numbers of pieces, at least three. Bonuses were given by declaring that some pieces were already "landed white side up" and need not be tossed – but never more than two of those. True D2's (Othello pieces, coins, etc.) must be flipped, not rolled. Feels entirely different than using dice. For infrequent use, I use high/low on a D6, similar to the odds/evens usage. |
| pavelft | 13 Sep 2007 11:31 a.m. PST |
To truly achieve a two-dimensional die you'd have to break some laws of physics. Considering the fact that we live in a three dimensional universe, bringing something truly 2D would probably cause some kind of damage, not to mention you'd probably slice off various body parts just handling the die. Forest
barring that flip a coin, but know that there's a very small chance it'll land on it's edge
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| Andrew Walters | 13 Sep 2007 1:27 p.m. PST |
Too many Easy Jokes here. Somehow we left out: "Yes, the US Mint!" and "Roll a d20 and reroll anything but a 1 or a 2." But my favorite would be, "roll a d10, and if it comes up prime that's a 1, if it comes up composite that's a 2!" Andrew |
| Sane Max | 14 Sep 2007 1:04 a.m. PST |
Will nobody treat this thread with respect? Acharnement and I know there are WAYS to generate a 1/2 random number, but none of them are sufficiently PRETTY, or make other gamers go 'ooooooh waddat?' when you get it out to roll. A penny is no good, as in any proper wargame the act of catching it and slapping it on the back of the hand will be classed as 'interference'. If you are ever playing Derren Brown or Rosencrantz you will regret this cheap-ass shortcut. Rolling a D20 and ignoring anything other than a 1/2 is good, as it upsets opponenents. But this may catch on, and it would only exacerbate the greying of the hobby. I want a D2 as well, and intend to get one made. Then you will all be sorry. Pat |
| Murvihill | 14 Sep 2007 6:00 a.m. PST |
"I had a D1 once, but only due to a dimensional rift. wink" D1's are very common. They're called "Marbles". |
| Acharnement | 14 Sep 2007 7:32 a.m. PST |
Well, thank you to Gungnir, Sane Max, and Regiment Games. Pretty much everyone else ignored what I asked in the question. I have some "Go" pieces- two quite convex sides but I was looking for something with a little more "action." Back to the drawing board. Oh, and did no one get the Lawrence Welk reference or perhaps he passed on before most of the TMP'ers were born. Thanks folks! |
| Fungus Amungus | 14 Sep 2007 1:40 p.m. PST |
You could find a mini that is roughly symmetrical and lays flat. Paint 1 on the shield and 2 on the cape. Or, for more fun, paint up one of your buddies in a simial scheme and throw him across the room each time you need a d2 |
| Robin Bobcat | 15 Sep 2007 3:02 a.m. PST |
Hmm
What about peices from an Othello set? Black on one side, white on the other? Nice good heavy plastic, great feel. |
| Robin Bobcat | 15 Sep 2007 3:03 a.m. PST |
Oh, there's also 'Fudge' dice, for the RPG of the same name. Trinary dice, with +, – , and blank sides. |
Der Alte Fritz  | 15 Sep 2007 11:23 a.m. PST |
Like others, I was going to suggest flipping a coin. This could actually be kind of fun in a beer and pretzels skirmish game. |
| Sane Max | 15 Sep 2007 12:38 p.m. PST |
Since the majority of WAB rolls are actually pretty close to 50/50, or close enough that there is no need to get upset about it, I would like to play a game in which you throw buckets of pennies. The potential for off-table conflict is enormous. 'That unit WAS in charge range before you hit it with thirty pennies you bastard' and 'Aaaaaaargh you chipped my general' Pat |
| kjamma4 | 03 Oct 2007 4:45 a.m. PST |
Jerzei Balowski said "I had a D1 once, but only due to a dimensional rift." I made a D1 once – I glued a penny to the table. Andrew Walters said "But my favorite would be, roll a d10, and if it comes up prime that's a 1, if it comes up composite that's a 2!" According to Wikipedia, the number one is neither prime nor composite. link |
| GoodBye | 03 Oct 2007 1:55 p.m. PST |
If you are ever playing Derren Brown or Rosencrantz you will regret this cheap-ass shortcut. Nice obscure reference! I love the movie, it is an all time classic and available on DVD now! |
| Last Hussar | 13 Oct 2007 11:01 a.m. PST |
I only ever seen the original play. |
| Contrarian | 27 Oct 2007 2:39 p.m. PST |
I believe the even/odd dice Sturat mentioned are from Chessex. I saw dice that match that description at their Gen Con booth. I don't usually recommend Chessex dice, but I think they would be choice for a d2, because the design is distinctive enough that players won't confuse the d2 for a regular d6. |
| FarrowStudios | 16 Apr 2009 2:00 p.m. PST |
Formula De, the OOP old school version, has a d2, it is basically a d4 with just 1 and 2, used to represent starting in first gear. I think they even sell dice sets separately. |
| imrael | 17 Apr 2009 4:55 a.m. PST |
I only ever seen the original play. I helped out backstage at a student production once, and the actor throwing the coin got a little enthusiastic and threw in high enough to land on a lighting bar and not come down. Spoiled the line a little. |
| RedAce | 14 Dec 2009 5:58 p.m. PST |
Paint 1 and 2 on either side of a smartie, or use an m&m. |
| Daffy Doug | 15 Dec 2009 8:59 a.m. PST |
A handful of marked Skittles! Excellent
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| Goldwyrm | 15 Dec 2009 10:25 a.m. PST |
If you fling a piece of toast high enough in the air with enough spin you can avoid the weighting to butter side down results and get a near 50/50 distribution. |
| Last Hussar | 15 Dec 2009 5:25 p.m. PST |
Why would the butter make a difference, even if it was heavy enough (how thick do you spread your butter?) all it would do is shift the centre of gravity. |
| RedAce | 15 Dec 2009 5:59 p.m. PST |
Toast ALWAYS lands butter side down. For a sneaky cheat, smear a tiny bit of butter into the "1" spots on all your d6s. LoL. |
| Jemima Fawr | 16 Dec 2009 7:02 p.m. PST |
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| Mehoy Nehoy | 24 Dec 2009 6:10 p.m. PST |
If you're in the UK, the Royal Mint make a nice selection of affordable D2s. |
| Last Hussar | 29 Dec 2009 10:14 a.m. PST |
You have to love TMP'ers. It's either that or weep in despair. Acharnement states that he knows he could use a d6 or flip a coin etc, but what he wants is a 'real' d2. What does he get?
How about odds = 1 and evens = 2, roll ANY die.
How about half of a D4?1-2=1 and 3-4=2
Flip a coin?!?!?
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| Jemima Fawr | 29 Dec 2009 3:22 p.m. PST |
LH, Yes we know that, but he's obviously on a wind-up, because only a wind-up merchant could ask such a bone question
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| rokknroll | 13 Jan 2010 7:30 a.m. PST |
Sir Digby said : "when you get it out" I spat Coffee. Afternoon complete! |
| brevior est vita | 15 Jan 2010 6:33 a.m. PST |
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