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mrwigglesworth26 Aug 2007 6:19 a.m. PST

Did they fly the British flag or have there own?
Where can I see FIW flags or download them?

Rudysnelson26 Aug 2007 6:28 a.m. PST

British flag as they were British subjects. I am not aware of independent unit flags.

The old movie about Rogers Ranges and 'Last of the Mohicans' both have colonist under the British Flag.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2007 7:39 a.m. PST

Organized provincial units would have followed British regulations.
So, if a provincial regiment had red facings, it would follow British practice and have a King's Colour as the Union, and a Regimental colour with a white field, a St. George cross in red, and the Union in the upper staff position. You might have a scroll in the middle with something like "1st. Va."
Note that Provincial regiments followed the same pattern in the AWI.

As for militia, maybe. Note that any actions in which militia participated were hardly likely to have use of Regimental Colours.
When the colonies sent a combined expedition to take Louisbourg in 1745, some units, militia, carried colors much like the allegorical ones carried in the AWI.

Oppiedog Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2007 1:21 p.m. PST

For 25mm, I like using The Flag Dudes AWI range but tend to only use the Regimental Colour for my Provincial units.

Doug MSC26 Aug 2007 5:15 p.m. PST

Redoubt's "Body's Banners" have two colonial Militia Falgs available for the F&I War.
COLONIAL
FIB 34- Maryland Militia
FIB 35- Rhode Island Militia
Both sheets are $5.00 USD each and have two flags per sheet.
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mrwigglesworth27 Aug 2007 3:38 a.m. PST

Thanks guys!

historygamer29 Aug 2007 10:11 a.m. PST

I must respectfully disagree with the very learned John the OFM. Provincial troops (not militia) were not bound by the British army regulations at all, and there is more speculation than known facts on Provincial flags.

Provincial units came and went during the time period of 1754 to 1760. For instance the original Virginia regiment had red coats and no facings (that is, if they even had a uniformed issued to them), but the later verision of this provincial unit had blue coats with red facings. There are indeed colours hanging in the Governor's Palace at Colonial Williamsburg that are supposed to represent th e later regiment (well, two actually), but who knows how they are documented, or for what time period they represent.

Many other colonies fielded provincial regiments as well, but again, they tended to come and go in establishment. The design of the colours would really be up to the Governor (as commander in chief of his colony), and or perhaps the full colonels of said regiments (they came and went too), and could vary from year to year, assembly to assembly, etc.

I would suggest that following John the OFM's advice would be the safest course of action though, and no one could really prove you wrong, as unfortunately these colours didn't seem to survive for us to see today, and I don't think there are any period drawings or paintings of them either.

While these units sometimes fielded as complete battalions, they were seldom used in combat as a combined force. The British generals tended to use them for garrison duty, road building, guarding supplies, etc. A quick look at the casualty rate of the provincial regiments at Fort Ti in 1758, as compared to the British regiments there, would tend to support this idea. Some provincial units on the Forbes campaign did indeed see service, but more as companies than battalions – at least in combat anyway.

Note that in the biggest field battles at Quebec there were no provincial units at all.

If you are doing a local skirmish type gaming, then militia or an individual company of provincials would be more historically correct, and the fort would probably have flown an English naval type ensign of a red field, which seemed to be used for forts of the period.

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