"Xyston or Langton" Topic

I cannot decide which gallys to go with. The 1/600 Xyston or the 1/1200 Langton. I will be playing on a 4ft by 6 ft table. There would be at most 5-10 ships a side. Your advice/help would be apprciated. I do not have access to the models. I can only go by the pictures I see. I have to mail order them

With that big table and that few number of ship's I'd go with Xyston. Now mind you, I have about 40 each of 1/1200 Langton and 1/900 Navwar but no Xyston. I just think the 1/1200 or 1/900 scale ships would seem lost on that big of a table.

I've done about 15 1/1200 scale ships per side on a 4x3 table and that seemed a little sparse. I plan to do a larger game in a few weeks where the playable area will be about 4x4 with 20 ships per side.

Grenadier drop me a PM when you do your battle and let me know how it goes. I like big battles as well. Also what rules do you use. I am interested in the period, but do not know which rules to use. There are several good ones out there.

Certainly. I plan to take pictures so I'll let you know where I post them.

I'm working on my own set of rules for large scale battles where each model represents roughly 5 – 7 ships.

I have to agree with Grenadier Books. I have 8-10 Langton galleys I got to experiment with. they are high quality models, but 10-20 on such a large table will look less than impressive.

On the other hand, if you are like me and saying you'll stick to a few a side until you start painting and then realize you "need" larger fleets, go with the Langton ships. One nice benefit is that langton also make gorgeous 1/1200 scale buildings and scenery so you can have a nice little port to fight over.

At 5 to 10 per side, I'd go Xyston but if you think that could morph into 20+ per, I'd go Langton.

Langton every time.

Or you could go with the Roman Seas 1/300 paper galleys. They look pretty darned nice, and you can use 1/300 figures for crews and and marines. At that small a number of ships, I imagine you might want to focus on boarding anyway.

Doug

I have thought about roman seas, but have held back because my building skills stink.

Well lets see I have Navwar, Langston, Xyston, Ramming line, Old Glory 15mm, and 1/72 and looking at 10mm Roman Seas. For the size you have to game and number I would go with Xyston. Although Langston are very very nice I am looking to do larger battles with them 30-60 ships. Brookhurst is having a sale on Xyston at this time as well!
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James Mattes

Grenadier Books 10 Aug 2007 9:38 a.m. PST

I'm working on my own set of rules for large scale battles where each model represents roughly 5 – 7 ships.

Got a Yahoo group for your rules yet? Or come over to Wooden Walls or Galley Wars.
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James Mattes

Vojvoda,
I'm on Wooden Walls as well. I don't have a yahoo group for my rules – their not that polished yet but I hope they will be soon. I've made a few changes to the rules recently in anticipation of the upcoming game but haven't incorporated them into the written rules yet. Once I get the changes incorporated I'll post them to wooden walls.

Tom

Belisarius – if I can manage to put together a paper trireme, I'm absolutely certain you can too. :-)

Doug

That didn't sound right – i.e. your building skills cannot possibly be worse than mine.

Doug

Na I have got you topped. The wife refuse to allow me to have any tools or sharp objects to fix things around the house.

I'm staring to get into the Galley stuff.

This past weekend at a local convention ConquestSF in Northern Calif,i bought 2 packs of Navwar Ancient Galley's and the Navwar set of Ancient Naval rules.

As for miniatures these are the following that i'm thinking of-

1.Valiant

2.Navwar

3.Langton

4.Xyston

With the help of some friends the idea that's floating around in my head is getting a mix of Navwar and Langton mini's.

The table space i have to work with is 6ft x 6ft so what do you think?

Captain Gideon

On a 6 by 6 you can go with any of those. Depends on how many ships you plan to use on one side.

I am starting to go in the opposite direction. I think movement is too restrictive in many rules I am looking at adjusting my rules to six movement speeds and four classification of ships. I have some movement that can go up to 12 inches so I am going to need more space.
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James Mattes

The Langton models are very nice and because of the scale, they allow you to have large fleets, so that Actium etc become a realistic project, within reason of course. Anyway, just my personal opinion.