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D6 Junkie21 Jul 2007 2:49 p.m. PST

Does anyone make them?
My brother is looking to get into
WWII and really wants Greeks.

aecurtis Fezian21 Jul 2007 2:50 p.m. PST

Only ones I know of are from The Quartermaster. Beware: they are dire.

Allen

Napoleon III21 Jul 2007 3:53 p.m. PST

For 15mm size, some late-war WW1 figures with British or semi-British kit may suffice?

D6 Junkie21 Jul 2007 4:33 p.m. PST

Thanks Allen,
Didn't the FOW site have an article on them once?

aecurtis Fezian21 Jul 2007 4:57 p.m. PST

Depending on where and when, Brits as Napoleon II suggests, or Italians would work. You'd have to develop workarounds for some weapons.

Yes, there was an "unofficial" PDF for the 1940-41 Greek army on the old site (dead link):

PDF link

You might check on the Early War Yahoo group to see if anyone has a copy, or some new ideas for one:

link

I have it saved on my old computer, but I have to get it transferred over. if you can give me a couple of weeks?

There is alaso a 1944 Greek brigade (essentially British) list on the new BF site, if your brother is willing to "go late".

Custom counters for all periods are here!

link

Allen

teaticket21 Jul 2007 5:33 p.m. PST

You could probably use Russians with overcoats and have better looking Greeks than the only figures available. Peter Pig and FoW make them

Pete

Wargamer Blue21 Jul 2007 6:47 p.m. PST

Could be a good Eureka 300 club request. I would put my name down for some.

bruntonboy22 Jul 2007 1:07 a.m. PST

I am just using Peter Pig's Italians with a few head swaps wearing the British Tin Hat. I only need about 40 or so and had the figures spare but I am sure they will look the part. Officers will be WW1 Brits in Caps.

Graham

kevanG22 Jul 2007 4:36 a.m. PST

It would be nice if martin at PP did a supplementary pack of "italians" with thompson smgs, boyes At rifles and even vickers hmg's. then they are useful as "captured" weapons or give a full option of proper greeks. It would not involve too much work. Another pack with italians using german lmg's and a couple of panzerfaust figures expands that ranges potential to cover late war RSI forces.

i think these 2 packs alone could double his italian figure sales

aecurtis Fezian22 Jul 2007 9:00 a.m. PST

Hard enogh to get Martin to do a pack of Illyrian ski troops!

Allen

Personal logo Grelber Supporting Member of TMP22 Jul 2007 11:22 a.m. PST

I'm using Italians for my Greek army. You need to get rid of the SMGs and add a grenade launcher per platoon.

The artillery situation isn't good, as nobody makes the 1919 Schneider mountain howitzer used by most Greek batteries. You can use the French 75mm gun, though it was historically limited to the Greek cavalry division. Alternatively, use the Russian 76.2mm model 1927 (or was it 26?), which was a license produced version of the Schneider Danglis mountain howitzer the Greeks used in WWI, and which was still in use with two Greek infantry divisions in 1940-41. Note for Finnish players: between the wars, as the Greeks bought 1919 Schneiders to replace the Schneider-Danglis howitzers, they sold off their old weapons to the Finns.
Grelber

aecurtis Fezian22 Jul 2007 1:19 p.m. PST

For the Schneider (and in 15mm), I would probably do a simple conversion of the Skoda mounteian howitzer made by True North Productions. A comparison os the two can be made from the photos here:

link

TNP does a straight gun shield for the Skoda, but a curved one similar to the Schneider on their Bofors AT gun. They might be persuaded to mix and match bits!

The earlier Schneider-Danglis isn;t all that dissimilar, shown here without a gun shield:

link

But I think it was the Russian mountain howitzer 06/09 (shown here) that was the licensed version of the Schneider-Danglis, not the M1927 infantry gun of the same caliber:

link

Allen

D6 Junkie22 Jul 2007 2:11 p.m. PST

Wow, thanks guys.
I'll run this all by my brother

Napoleon III22 Jul 2007 7:11 p.m. PST

Ah yes, I wasn't thinking of the more modern helmet/uniform the Greek army was moving to during the war. The Italian figures should work quite well enough for that. I was only thinking of the uniform they began the war with which had a decidedly British "look" to it, British helmet and all. Sorry for any confusion, D6J!

Lluis Vilalta23 Jul 2007 4:16 a.m. PST

Guys, I've happened to find that old Battlefront's PDF document: flamesofwar.free.fr/ressources/Intelligence/Early-war-greek.pdf

BTW, could someone outline a basic painting guide for WWII Greeks?

kevanG23 Jul 2007 11:17 a.m. PST

They seem to wear a basic italian style uniform in a green shade slightly greener than the french and dutch uniforms and greener than the russians too. It appears greener than the "first world war" british style battledress. i think the greek army website has a historical section worth visiting.

Mad Monarchist23 Jul 2007 9:41 p.m. PST

Here's a couple of suggestions from another forum:

Vallejo 'green brown' and 'English uniform' Musket 'US khaki Green' and Delta Ceramcoat 'timberline green'

Uniform Chocolate Brown 872 – English Uniform 921 – Khaki 988
Leather SS Cam. Black 822 – Mahogany Sand 846
Helmet Brown Violet 887

link

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