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Henrix15 May 2007 2:30 a.m. PST

Is The Viking Art of War, by Paddy Griffith, a good book?

Normally I would check it out at my friendly local university library, but both copies seem to have gone missing ':-[

mrabbit15 May 2007 2:43 a.m. PST

Yes!

Interesting analysis of how shieldwalls work.

Griffith is, IMHO, always worth reading even if you don't always agree with his analysis you do get a fresh perspective.

hurcheon15 May 2007 2:53 a.m. PST

Also I like his theory of Berserkers as the village ned that just doesn't have the wiring to require a workup to violence

CATenWolde15 May 2007 3:13 a.m. PST

I had mine "borrowed" and it's on my list of books to replace – good stuff.

Henrix15 May 2007 4:02 a.m. PST

Sounds like I should get one! Thanks!

Wombling Free15 May 2007 11:11 a.m. PST

Whoa, before you go buying it, you should know that most academic specialists in the period consider it to be a poorly researched book!

While there is not space on this board to go into detail regarding why it is not a good book, the main problem is that Griffith does not appear to have the appropriate critical toolkit to analyse the source material for this period (mainly the Icelandic sagas). He relies too much on secondary sources and is too accepting of the primary sources that he has used (in translation). The fact that he has worked with them only in translation means that he does not get the full picture that someone reading them in Old Norse would and it is clear that he has missed a lot.

While there are some little gems in the book, it reflects more 20th century reception of Viking Age warfare than it does the probably reality.

Cheers,
Wukong

Wombling Free15 May 2007 11:13 a.m. PST

Forgot to add; if you can wait 6 months, Gareth Williams' forthcoming "Viking Warfare and Military Organisation" will probably be a much better book on the subject.

(Change Name)18 May 2007 12:54 a.m. PST

[Sounds like I should get one! Thanks!]

Now for the bad news. It has been out of print for quite a while. Expect to pay a premium.

Henrix18 May 2007 9:41 a.m. PST

Thanks for the warning, Wukong.

And I have seen it at reasonable prices, so it shouldn't be too bad.

(Change Name)05 Feb 2008 4:21 a.m. PST

[Forgot to add; if you can wait 6 months, Gareth Williams' forthcoming "Viking Warfare and Military Organisation" will probably be a much better book on the subject.]

Scheduled for publication in February 2014

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